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re: What exactly does Ensminger bring to this staff?

Posted on 1/17/11 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/17/11 at 1:17 pm to
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READ MY POST, this will come to light soon!


Of course. Because any Louisiana recruit we lose is due to recruiting violations...

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Look man, this guy..........


I agree. He has done a fantastic job. Wouldn't it be nice to have another Frank Wilson type recruiter on staff instead of a coach who has very little impact on the the performance of the LSU football team?
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 1:18 pm to
YEs thay all were sent in via faxes........what he meant and we all undewrstood was there were "surprises" or not previously committed players sent in faxes to LSU to "consumate" the deal on NSD.
This post was edited on 1/17/11 at 1:20 pm
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
9650 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 1:20 pm to
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3. We have one player from Texas committed to LSU in this class. If we don't recruit Texas well, we will, in all likelihood, not maintain the level of success we have had over the past 10 years.


At least get your facts right. We have a grand total of 6 kids not from LA in this class, and three are from Texas.

We don't have to get players from only the Gulf Coast to do well. While some of the areas you said we haven't done as well in we have also done better in Georgia. We haven't gotten significant numbers from MS and AL in years and it's fine.
This post was edited on 1/17/11 at 1:23 pm
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
4314 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 1:21 pm to
We have Randle, Jenkins, and the kicker.

I stand corrected.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 1/17/11 at 1:22 pm to
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Of course. Because any Louisiana recruit we lose is due to recruiting violations...



Not any, just some.....go back and read my post....

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I agree. He has done a fantastic job. Wouldn't it be nice to have another Frank Wilson type recruiter on staff instead of a coach who has very little impact on the the performance of the LSU football team?


Find me another Frank. On the other side, I said many times Jimbo would do well. He is a great one. I've known him from back in his days at the barn. He has Fla. St. on the right track.

We loose in state players every year, been this way for years. Nothing new. Maybe you should follow recruiting more.
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
4314 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 1:31 pm to
Tony Hughes

That would be my hire
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 1/17/11 at 1:40 pm to
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Tony Hughes

That would be my hire


Good coach, has done well at Moo. St.

His next stop may be a DC job.
Posted by tcoachmc
Palo Alto
Member since Dec 2010
916 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 3:04 pm to
Once again if you are going to bring a question up on a message board, don't get offended if some questions you. WHAT DO YOU KNOW? Im telling you Ensminger brings alot to the staff at LSU. You can't make a legit question and not expect to get responses unless you have information to bash Steve Ensminger with facts. It is that simple. I know everyone want's to get on here and pretend they know everything, but if you can't back up what you are saying don't post it. So my question to you; tell me something bad that you know for a fact about Steve Ensminger. If you can tell me something and back it up then I won't question.
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
4314 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 3:24 pm to
Tell me the "facts" about what Ensminger does bring to the table.

My initial question was "what exactly does Ensminger bring to this staff".

It appears from the outside that he doesn't bring anything of substance to the table.

Tell me why I'm wrong. However, you must use stone-cold facts.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 3:42 pm to
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It appears from the outside that he doesn't bring anything of substance to the table.


So your reasoning for getting rid of Ensminger is because it "appears" he doesn't bring anything to the table. Great reasoning on your part.

The guy has multiple years experience in the SEC and OC experience as well. The TE's have actually improved and produced this year despite running Crowton's system, which isnt exactly TE friendly. That's with Peterson being hurt the first few games. Plus he is well respected on this LSU staff. That's good enough for me
Posted by tcoachmc
Palo Alto
Member since Dec 2010
916 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 3:53 pm to
My only fact is that the head coach of Louisiana State University that makes 3.75 mill a year hired him. I think he knows more than you. So my question to you is give me a reason why Ensminger should not be part of the LSU staff and back it up with facts that YOU KNOW. Not too much to ask for. It is so easy to get on here and sling why he should not be here. All I'm saying is TELL THIS BOARD THOSE FACTS. Make sure you can back those facts up with more than hearsay.
This post was edited on 1/17/11 at 3:56 pm
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
6646 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 4:16 pm to
I really don't understand why everyone's complaining. The TE's were really good this year. Peterson, our best receiving TE, got hurt early, yet Mitch Joseph, normally the blocking TE, stepped in and caught a lot of passes. Clement played pretty well. Tyler Edwards contributed. And Peterson ended up having a good year. I think his he succeded in his role as TE coach.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
156115 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 4:18 pm to
some mean honey stung leg quarters
This post was edited on 1/17/11 at 4:26 pm
Posted by Tiger4Ever
Member since Aug 2003
36704 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 4:40 pm to
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tuptiger


This thread alone makes me wish the Coaching Changes board was shut down already...and I really like the Coaching Changes board.

There really is no end to the stupidity...
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28895 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 4:52 pm to
I haven't read any of this but has somebody all ready said "nothing"?
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
4314 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 4:55 pm to


quote:

It is so easy to get on here and sling why he should not be here. All I'm saying is TELL THIS BOARD THOSE FACTS. Make sure you can back those facts up with more than hearsay.


If all I'm doing is slinging why he should not be here, why don't you inform me on why he should be here?

Just because a man makes 3.75 million dollars doesn't mean he is impervious to botching a hire. He's already botched one hire badly. Hell, I'm not even arguing that he botched the hire. I'm arguing that it seems that the position of TEs coach really cannot hurt the team, and I'm also arguing that the position of TEs coach really cannot help the program.

Therefore, if a certain position on staff seems to be of negligible benefit, why wouldn't we hire someone who can actually contribute to the overall benefit of the LSU football program.

It's not difficult to grasp.

I guess it's bad timing. I'll allow everyone to continue the circle jerk over Miles for some unfounded reason.

I never thought a Cotton Bowl victory would cause a fan base to become totally blinded.




Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
4314 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 4:58 pm to
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I haven't read any of this but has somebody all ready said "nothing"?


Surprisingly no. I'm shocked at the reactions I've gotten.

Ensminger's responsibilities apparently include the following:

1. Offensive Game Planning
2. Quarterbacks Coach
3. TEs Coach- A damn good one at that, even though Peterson dropped a shite ton of passes, and the combined amount of catches by our TEs is probably somewhere between 10-20.
4. Associate Head Coach/Miles' right hand man
Posted by Ultraclassictiger
Member since Jun 2010
419 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 5:17 pm to
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We sure as hell don't need a washed up TEs coach.


man can't you have a little more respect for the guy? after all he is an ex LSU Tiger. I mean i agree with most of what you say, but this is what we are telling highschool kids as a benefit of staying in state to play college ball. The university will never turn its back.
Posted by tcoachmc
Palo Alto
Member since Dec 2010
916 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 5:28 pm to
Hey chief, do you understand the makeup of a D-1 college coaching staff. You are only allowed to have 10 full time coaches on any NCAA Division-1 Staff. The decsions that are made with all coaching positions are important. With the all multiple personel groups that colleges use it is important that one of coaches actually coaches the TE's/ H-backs. How many times have you watched a game and seen "12" personel or "22" personel in the game(if you even know what that means) The TE coaching position slot is very important in a multiple or "PRO offense", Which is what the majority of fans on this board want LSU to do.
This post was edited on 1/17/11 at 5:42 pm
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28895 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 5:29 pm to
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1. Offensive Game Planning
2. Quarterbacks Coach
3. TEs Coach- A damn good one at that, even though Peterson dropped a shite ton of passes, and the combined amount of catches by our TEs is probably somewhere between 10-20.
4. Associate Head Coach/Miles' right hand man


Nothing. So I was right. Thanks.
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