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re: What else does Napier have to do to prove his coaching ability?

Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:00 pm to
Posted by deaux
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Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:00 pm to
They also struggled against Nicholls and South Alabama

Honestly, I really don’t care. He may be a good coach and could probably be successful at LSU - if Miles and Orgeron can win a NC here, there are a number of others that probably could too. I just find the infatuation with Napier to be a bit much on this board and don’t believe for a second his name would get tossed around as much if he was coaching in a different state.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:01 pm to
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struggled against Nicholls


No they didn’t
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:01 pm to
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Let’s be honest, can the top recruiting class in the sunbelt be “far and away” better than everyone else? I would say no, someone has to be the top class and it just happens to be his. If those guys were superior to sunbelt talent, they wouldn’t be in the sunbelt.



But I thought one of his selling points was his recruiting prowess.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:03 pm to
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struggled against Nicholls


No they didn’t

7 point lead at halftime and a 3 point win against an FCS team. Not sure what else to call that, but okay.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39829 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:04 pm to
Nicholls was never in position to win that game. It was sloppy but they didn’t struggle.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:04 pm to
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He may be a good coach and could probably be successful at LSU


He should not be considered until plenty of other proven candidates say no. I'm not making a case for him being the next coach of LSU. I'm making a case of him just simply being a good coach.

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Napier to be a bit much on this board and don’t believe for a second his name would get tossed around as much if he was coaching in a different state


Probably not. Chadwell's name has been brought up as well here, but not nearly as much as Napier. The familiarity has something to do with it for sure.

Posted by Subpartiger
Member since Oct 2021
129 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:04 pm to
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What talent advantage? He’s playing with sunbelt talent against sunbelt talent


When touting Napier's recruiting abilities, it's been repeated relentlessly that he's had "the top recruiting class in the SBC three consecutive years."

If that's the case, how's the talent level on par with the rest of the conference?

Seems like the goal posts move for certain candidates.
Posted by Micro12Tiger
Member since Oct 2021
446 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:05 pm to
He needs to go coach TCU and if he is lucky and wins, then maybe LSU will considered him for the job the next time. Of course, that may be right before he retires.
Posted by TigerBR1111
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
8131 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:05 pm to
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Guy totally changed game in second half with great adjustments. He is an amazing coach.


A 7 point difference in the second half against mighty Georgia State? I’m supposed to be impressed? Cmon man.
This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 10:07 pm
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16377 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:06 pm to
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Not struggle against sun belt teams despite an apparently large talent advantage?

They played Ga St as well if not better than auburn did.
App St is a very good team and they steamrolled them 41-13.
Baylor beat Texas St 29-20 but ULL beat them 45-0.
Baylor beat Texas who beat ULL by 20.

I agree though, they have played down or uninspired a lot of games. OU has too and it cost them in playoff rankings.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:06 pm to
I heard he already turned down the LSU job.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:06 pm to
okay. If he isn’t coaching in LA, you’re not coming up with excuses like this.

I doubt he will be the hire. If he is, then good for him and hope he does well.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24536 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:09 pm to
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When touting Napier's recruiting abilities, it's been repeated relentlessly that he's had "the top recruiting class in the SBC three consecutive years."

If that's the case, how's the talent level on par with the rest of the conference?

Seems like the goal posts move for certain candidates.


Him saying that wasn't moving any goal post. He has had the best recruiting classes in the SunBelt, and he has consistently been in the SB Conference championship game. He's getting the Sunbelt talent in and winning with it.

It seems people on here are expecting him to bring SEC talent into the SunBelt and be steam rolling every team they play. The highest ranking SunBelt recruiting class is still a SunBelt class.

He's beating out his peers, that are on his level in recruiting, and on the field with regularity. If that would translate to LSU, that translates to national championships. The question is, would it translate to LSU?
This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 10:11 pm
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10363 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:10 pm to
Win in a real conference.

Maybe he’s LSU ready in 15-20 years. He’s still a low level coach.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15627 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:10 pm to
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What else does Napier have to do to prove his coaching ability?



Win a Sunbelt Championship game. He's 0-2
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
6157 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:12 pm to
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Nah I think people are joking, or at least I hope so. Napier is not ready for the bright lights
You’re misreading Napier derangement syndrome.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
6157 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:16 pm to
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0-2
He arrived at ULL in 2018 and will playing for his 4th conference title in as many years... at ULL. Was deprived the opportunity in year 3.

Napier may not be ready, but the only argument that could be used against him is whether or not he is ready for P5 recruiting.

LSU has a little bit of that built in & it’s not like P5 coordinators / assistants are total strangers to that game.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33843 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:17 pm to
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You’re misreading Napier derangement syndrome.



I guess I am. I see the term has political undertones.

I don't see much irrational criticism of Napier. He coaches in the Sunbelt, it's ok to be more skeptical than we would be when judging a coach on a larger stage.
This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 10:19 pm
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39829 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:18 pm to
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Maybe he’s LSU ready in 15-20 years


Yeah let’s call him up when he’s 62

I swear y’all are retarded
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:18 pm to
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the only argument that could be used against him is whether or not he is ready for P5 recruiting
And his batshit in-game decisions but we just overlook those because he coaches at a school in LA.
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