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Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:14 am to Bayoubengal205
Thanks man. It's all good. Just an opinion about Moorhead.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:16 am to smoke225
It's a 40year old with a new I phone and spell check bull crap. Go Tigers??
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:17 am to rygu96
Well I’d like to understand your opinion of Moorehead. So thanks for commenting, but I can’t really understand what you’re saying because of the structure of your sentences... I’m not being a dick I honestly still have no idea why you think it’d be a bad hire... so maybe try again?
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:21 am to rygu96
I know little about Morehead's personality but I was not aware he was a problem child (supposedly like Canada was).
If so, Ed really needs to grow up fast.
If so, Ed really needs to grow up fast.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:21 am to Bayoubengal205
Bahahaha
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:23 am to AlwysATgr
I didn’t know he was a problem child either..
Elaborate? Where did you hear this? What’s the context? I’m trying to learn. Lol
Elaborate? Where did you hear this? What’s the context? I’m trying to learn. Lol
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:23 am to rygu96
Are you typing with mittens on?
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:26 am to Bayoubengal205
The argument against Moorehead is that he runs 55% or more of the time. Other then that, not alot to not love about him.
At PSU, he used a lot of rpo stuff. Brady rpo stuff was mainly his combined with the saints level approach to the passing game and the saints passing formations.
Funny though we didn't really use saints nor Moorehead run game stuff lol.
Overall I think he would be a great hire strictly on paper. It's hard to know how good of a recruiter he is as he hasn't stayed at any ace terribly long since leaving Fordham.
At Oregon, he hasn't been an ace or anything for sure. At MSU he had 9th ranked class in 17&18. No big time qb recruits and Penn state either.
At PSU, he used a lot of rpo stuff. Brady rpo stuff was mainly his combined with the saints level approach to the passing game and the saints passing formations.
Funny though we didn't really use saints nor Moorehead run game stuff lol.
Overall I think he would be a great hire strictly on paper. It's hard to know how good of a recruiter he is as he hasn't stayed at any ace terribly long since leaving Fordham.
At Oregon, he hasn't been an ace or anything for sure. At MSU he had 9th ranked class in 17&18. No big time qb recruits and Penn state either.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:26 am to Bayoubengal205
I was responding to the earlier poster who affirmed as much. No idea why he stated it.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:28 am to AlwysATgr
Oh my bad
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:34 am to lsu777
Interesting.
Thanks for the input!!
I’d much prefer someone that would be a great hire on AND off the paper. Someone with the intangibles. Leadership, adaptability, recruiting, relatability with the players, etc.
Ensminger brought refreshing change (he played a role in the whole Brady thing because he was humble and accepted that he needed help). But I think it’s time for BOTH our coordinators to be the kind of guys that have that “IT” factor. Because when the coaches have it, it makes it much easier to get that factor out of the players if they have it as well. It can be contagious in a sense.
These players deserve the best all around coordinator.. so far the info I’m learning of Moorehead via this discussion and article, tell me it could be considered a lazy hire.
I hope they dig deep and really work hard to find the right fit. Not just a guy that can call plays.
Thanks for the input!!
I’d much prefer someone that would be a great hire on AND off the paper. Someone with the intangibles. Leadership, adaptability, recruiting, relatability with the players, etc.
Ensminger brought refreshing change (he played a role in the whole Brady thing because he was humble and accepted that he needed help). But I think it’s time for BOTH our coordinators to be the kind of guys that have that “IT” factor. Because when the coaches have it, it makes it much easier to get that factor out of the players if they have it as well. It can be contagious in a sense.
These players deserve the best all around coordinator.. so far the info I’m learning of Moorehead via this discussion and article, tell me it could be considered a lazy hire.
I hope they dig deep and really work hard to find the right fit. Not just a guy that can call plays.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:40 am to Bayoubengal205
Thanks LSU 777 for explaining it. I just don't think he proved to be that guy we need. I just don't see him and coach O working out. I am looking for a younger more aggressive type guy that can also recruit. What about a DJ mangus working with Russ Calloway? Need a work horse that will be around for year's. Only problem is he is in Joe Brady's back pocket. It will be interesting which way they go. Hope I didn't screw this one up. Be nice to the elderly fellows.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:48 am to Jaydeaux
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but why did Moo State suck?
Because they were MOO STATE (w/o an epic QB)???
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:53 am to Jaydeaux
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I’m not against it but why did Moo State suck?
Some guys just aren't HC material. I try to separate what they did as a HC with what they did as a coordinator. A lot of people suffer from the "Joe Brady effect" and want the next big up and comer which is just not going to happen. Brady is savant and this will be obvious when he's a successful NFL HC within 5-10 years. Brady is a one of a kind talent that doesn't come around often.
Moorhead had Penn St humming in 2016
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Before Moorhead’s arrival in Happy Valley in 2016, Penn State’s offense finished 2015 ranked 64th and 71st nationally in Beta_Rank and S&P+. Shackled by inefficiency, (105th in drive efficiency/71st in play efficiency) and a less than stellar passing attack (51st), the Nittany Lions turned to a creative mind at the FCS level to turn their offense around.
Joe Moorhead delivered, shooting Penn State to 9th in Beta_Rank and 23rd in S&P+ in his first year and improving yet again in 2017 (3rd in Beta_Rank and 5th in S&P+). Improvements on multiple fronts, including offensive drive efficiency (3rd down completion rose from 32% to 48% from 2016 to 2017), negative drives (19 point improvement), and critically, an elite passing attack, are why Mississippi State offered Moorhead more than $2.5 million a year to coach in Starkville.
That same article states this too:
quote:
After two successful years as Penn State’s offensive coordinator, Moorhead was hired as Mississippi’s Head Coach to replace Dan Mullen, who had Mississippi State humming by fielding back-to-back top-25 offenses according to Beta_Rank in 2015-16. Moorhead continued the trend, rocking two top-30 offenses. Notably, Moorhead spurned the heavy passing attack that he had found successful at Penn State, leaning instead on an effective rushing attack that ranked in the top 10 nationally during both of his years in Starkville.
This goes to show he will adapt according to the talent available. He's shown he can have a lethal passing attack and, if need be, develop a quality running game. Miss St was trash but to see their running game in the top 10 both seasons in Starkville is impressive.
I have no idea how he is on the recruiting trail which is obviously a big factor. As far as Xs & Os go though.. he's definitely talented.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:53 am to lsu777
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Funny though we didn't really use saints nor Moorehead run game stuff lol.
Maybe because Brady was the PASSING GAME COORD?
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:54 am to alumni95
He had the kid that was pretty damn good under Merlins. Again, I’m not against is but he seemed destined to fail at M state. He did make Barkley a start a Penn state right?
I do know that I just want someone who’s creative. Not sure I saw that with Moo State. But what the hell do I know.
I do know that I just want someone who’s creative. Not sure I saw that with Moo State. But what the hell do I know.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:57 am to rygu96
Now I see your point.
Consider yourself redeemed for the earlier botched comments lol.
Thanks for the input
Consider yourself redeemed for the earlier botched comments lol.
Thanks for the input
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:58 am to MickeyLikesDags21
Good points. Thanks for the input!
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:58 am to MickeyLikesDags21
Very nice find. That is good to see if he is truly a potential candidate.
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