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Posted by xLxSxUxFxAxNx
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/3/09 at 3:50 pm to
nenbraska thought the same when they hired callahan.

just face facts. you have an unproven head coach who was fired from the nfl and that is the only reason he came to college ball. not because he really wanted to. his father hasn't coached college ball since the early 80's. and O is a great recruiter who is a solid DL coach. nothing more, but definitly maybe less.

Posted by My Blood Runs Orange
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2008
1255 posts
Posted on 1/3/09 at 3:57 pm to

Kiffin is definitely unproven as a head coach. That does not mean the potential for big things is not there.

Your point about Callahan is true. But remember that people also said all this same stuff about Pete Carroll when he first came to USC as a failed NFL coach with no college HC experience.

I dont know which one Kiffin will end up like. But there is no denying that there is great reason to be excited on Rocky Top right now the way this staff is coming together.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 1/3/09 at 4:02 pm to
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Kiffin is definitely unproven as a head coach. That does not mean the potential for big things is not there.


And Tennessee is reduced to hiring potential.
Posted by My Blood Runs Orange
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/3/09 at 4:05 pm to

No...his offensive track record speaks for itself at USC. Monte's defensive track record in the NFL is unmatched in NFL history.

Stop reaching for straws. I was talking about his potential as a college head coach was huge.

You see, when someone has not been a college head coach before, like say, Pete Carroll or Bob Stoops, all you can truthfully speak is their head coaching potential.

I'll take Matt Leinart & Reggie Bush's OC & Monte Kiffins defense all day long.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/3/09 at 4:06 pm to
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And Tennessee is reduced to hiring potential.
KA-BOOM!!
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81261 posts
Posted on 1/3/09 at 4:06 pm to
i know a 3 star that went to Tennessee and got handed $5k in an envelope when he stepped off the plane.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 1/3/09 at 4:17 pm to
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No...his offensive track record speaks for itself at USC.


Yeah it take a genius to be able to put up point and rack up yardage with the scrubs USC has against the stout defenses of the Pac 10.

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Monte's defensive track record in the NFL is unmatched in NFL history


tiny little over-statement

quote:

I was talking about his potential as a college head coach was huge.


Matched by the bust factor.

Posted by XtennesseeX
Florida
Member since Jan 2007
22 posts
Posted on 1/3/09 at 4:26 pm to
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And Tennessee is reduced to hiring potential.

When USC hired Pete Carroll, he was writing for Sports Illustrated. Alot of USC supporters didn't like the hire.

An interesting bit, Nick Saban turned down the USC job not long before Pete Carroll landed at USC. His agent (Sexton) told him 'Man, you don't want to go to Southern Cal. Nobody wants to send their kids to school in south central LA anymore'.

USC had to 'reduce' itself, and hire a coach that took over a team that was in the Superbowl the year prior, to out of the playoffs by year three. USC hired a failed NFL coach, who was spending his time as a part time sports columnist.

2 National Championships, & 7 Conference Championships later, I'm sure they're happy they found him.

Hiring potential isn't a bad thing, especially with the staff around him.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158754 posts
Posted on 1/3/09 at 4:28 pm to
keep convincing yourselves passing on Brian Kelly was wise
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81261 posts
Posted on 1/3/09 at 4:29 pm to
well if Pete Carroll wasn't USC's first choice than Lane Kiffin must be awesome. I mean that makes sense, right?
Posted by XtennesseeX
Florida
Member since Jan 2007
22 posts
Posted on 1/3/09 at 4:33 pm to
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keep convincing yourselves passing on Brian Kelly was wise


Kelly is a good coach. Kiffin + the staff he is putting together is undeniably a good hire.

Kelly's only problem was recruiting. To win at UT, it is a must to recruit. Kiffin & his staff bring that.

Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158754 posts
Posted on 1/3/09 at 4:35 pm to
recruiting wise I'm not even sure what y'all are expecting out of O. Most of the areas UT used to raid have been shored up by other rising programs. I wouldn't expect him to come down here and steal anyone
Posted by XtennesseeX
Florida
Member since Jan 2007
22 posts
Posted on 1/3/09 at 4:41 pm to
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well if Pete Carroll wasn't USC's first choice than Lane Kiffin must be awesome. I mean that makes sense, right?


Not quite sure you're getting the analogy. He said Tennessee is reduced to hiring potential. I gave an example of hiring potential.

Mark Richt was the offensive coordinator for an unbelievably talented Florida State team, and he has done just fine as head coach at Georgia. Was Mark Richt just a beneficiary of talent at FSU, and a complete fraud?
Posted by xLxSxUxFxAxNx
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
58623 posts
Posted on 1/3/09 at 4:45 pm to
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Monte's defensive track record in the NFL is unmatched in NFL history



this statement alone shows the true delusion of your fanbase.
Posted by XtennesseeX
Florida
Member since Jan 2007
22 posts
Posted on 1/3/09 at 4:47 pm to
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recruiting wise I'm not even sure what y'all are expecting out of O. Most of the areas UT used to raid have been shored up by other rising programs. I wouldn't expect him to come down here and steal anyone


Memphis area has some talent. We will always recruit the south. We've managed to pull out some great recruits from the west coast (Mostly California) in the last decade under Fulmer. Another very good area is the Chesapeake area of Virginia.

If Fulmer managed to bring in two top 5 recruiting classes since 2005, this staff will be fine.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158754 posts
Posted on 1/3/09 at 4:48 pm to
Just wondering if yall had dreams of developing a pipeline here again

fwiw you and alley don't seem to be retarded like a few of the other UT posters here
Posted by ole orange
Brentwood/Knoxville
Member since Aug 2008
3429 posts
Posted on 1/3/09 at 4:50 pm to
+1
Posted by xLxSxUxFxAxNx
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
58623 posts
Posted on 1/3/09 at 4:51 pm to
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and he has done just fine as head coach at Georgia. Was Mark Richt just a beneficiary of talent at FSU, and a complete fraud?


actually a friend and i were talking last night how we both thought mark richt was a good coach but over the past few years we have come to realize he is overrated. so i love your example.
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 1/3/09 at 4:51 pm to
Mark Richt was about 41 years old when he coached his first season at UGA.

Kiffin appears to be a pretty cocky guy, and it's going to be a ball seeing UF wax that arse for years to come.
This post was edited on 1/3/09 at 4:52 pm
Posted by xLxSxUxFxAxNx
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
58623 posts
Posted on 1/3/09 at 4:53 pm to
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, and it's going to be a ball seeing UF wax that arse for years to come.


UF? shite. how about Vandy?
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