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Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 12:42 pm to
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Who will be left blame?


The guy has the most 10 win seasons in LSU history. I think he wants all the credit.
Posted by Cajun Revolution
Member since Apr 2009
44671 posts
Posted on 1/5/11 at 12:42 pm to
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Posted by belowpar
I don't know a whole lot but what I do know is miles is interviewing 3 or so for OC. I hear kragthorpe is leading candidate. Michigan has not contacted miles, if they do I think he may talk to them but I can't really tell if he would reallyleave if offered at this point.




This guy really sucks donkey balls if he hires Kragthorpe...so much talent available and we pull someone off the bench. Wonderful. fricking idiots.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37625 posts
Posted on 1/5/11 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

Kragthorpe


quote:

Louisville Cardinals (Big East Conference) (2007–2009)
2007 Louisville 6–6 3–4 T-5th — —
2008 Louisville 5–7 1–6 8th — —
2009 Louisville 4–8 1–6 7th


yeesh
Posted by Acreboy
Member since Nov 2005
38568 posts
Posted on 1/5/11 at 12:47 pm to
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This guy really sucks donkey balls if he hires Kragthorpe...so much talent available and we pull someone off the bench. Wonderful. fricking idiots.
kragthorpe would be a good hire whether you believe so or not.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20998 posts
Posted on 1/5/11 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

yeesh


Not interviewing him as HC
Posted by Acreboy
Member since Nov 2005
38568 posts
Posted on 1/5/11 at 12:49 pm to
Do people realize how different it is being a HC vs an OC?
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20998 posts
Posted on 1/5/11 at 12:50 pm to
Apparently not
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28056 posts
Posted on 1/5/11 at 12:52 pm to
belowpar,

I know your word is not gospel and won't hold you to it, but you thought last year a change would be made and it wasn't. Do you feel better about it this year than last?
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37625 posts
Posted on 1/5/11 at 12:52 pm to
I do. Those numbers were just the first thing to jump out at me.
This post was edited on 1/5/11 at 12:53 pm
Posted by Acreboy
Member since Nov 2005
38568 posts
Posted on 1/5/11 at 12:53 pm to
Weis was a turrible HC but orchistarated a top 10 offense in the NFL this year.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37625 posts
Posted on 1/5/11 at 12:53 pm to
Very good point, and I realize this.
Posted by givemeabeer
Member since Mar 2006
3306 posts
Posted on 1/5/11 at 12:59 pm to
Kragthorpe was OC in 2009 at Louisville in addition to being HC. Here are the results LINK

Rushing Offense 89th
Passing Offense 71st
Total Offense 91st
Scoring Offense 111th

And this from ESPN when he was canned:
quote:

Even more so than that, Kragthorpe never fully utilized the talent on his team. For example, in 2007, instead of using 6-foot-6 receiver Mario Urrutia as a vertical threat as Petrino had, Kragthorpe's offense often called plays for Urrutia to go over the middle or catch screen passes. An unhappy Urrutia wound up leaving after the season as a junior.

Kragthorpe had three different offensive coordinators and four different defensive playcallers during his tenure. His teams often looked disjointed on the field, repeatedly burning timeouts in confusion early in games or lining up in the wrong formations. Kragthorpe's calls on third and fourth downs prompted a lot of head-scratching.

Perhaps the most damning evidence against Kragthorpe is this: He took over offensive coordinator duties this year, and the team averaged 18.5 points per game, worst in the Big East and the fewest by a Louisville team since 1996. Though he came to town with the reputation as a bright offensive mind, his offenses lacked imagination and paled in comparison to his predecessor.


LINK

Sounds. Like. Crowton.
Posted by lpd1975
At the lake
Member since Nov 2007
2795 posts
Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:01 pm to
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Kragthorpe was OC in 2009 at Louisville in addition to being HC.


Why cherry pick one season,

when he was also head coach,

a role that he will not be asked to fill here.
Posted by TheFranchise
The Stick
Member since Feb 2005
6306 posts
Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:07 pm to
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The guy has the most 10 win seasons in LSU history. I think he wants all the credit.


Who was a fan of "check-with-me"?

Posi-Miles: "I hated it when Crowton came up with that; Miles would never think of that he has won 10 games to many times."

Surely, Miles realizes that the "check-with-me" didn't work...and would move on from that, right?

quote:

Also intriguing is Kragthorpe’s increase of the check-with-me system


from a Louisville blogger in 2009.
Krag

but Crowton is the problem, right?

Look, I greatly appreciate all the work Miles has done here. He has more 10 wins seasons than any other LSU coach.

But, the average LSU fan's fall-guy-du-jour also was the OC for the highest-per-game-scoring offense in the history of LSU.

Sure GC needs to go. He and Miles simply can no longer co-exist. But to think it is all the fault of GC (who, by the way, has been here for all but one of Miles' seasons so he might deserve credit for some of those 10 wins, too) is absolutely laughable.

Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18513 posts
Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:17 pm to
you know youre "The shite" on this board when you can pop in, drop a bomb that would normally be considered a rumor by anyone else (subject to immediate deletion), and get it stickied!

Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49154 posts
Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:19 pm to
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But, the average LSU fan's fall-guy-du-jour also was the OC for the highest-per-game-scoring offense in the history of LSU.


Running Jimbo Fisher's offense with a QB developed by Fisher.

quote:

Sure GC needs to go. He and Miles simply can no longer co-exist. But to think it is all the fault of GC (who, by the way, has been here for all but one of Miles' seasons so he might deserve credit for some of those 10 wins, too) is absolutely laughable.


Miles has four ten win seasons. Two were with Fisher (2005, 2006) and then 2007 (as discussed above); finally 2010 (with an offense ranked in the bottom 1/5 of college football.
Posted by Broham
Member since Feb 2005
19040 posts
Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:20 pm to
Wow, this just made me smile. Mettenberger will have a shot to start next year now. JJ will never learn a new scheme in a few months.
Posted by LockdownDefense
Member since Aug 2008
4441 posts
Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:21 pm to
I hope one of the other two is Leach, and Miles just hasn't interviewed him yet..

Posted by DaBigDogg
Member since Dec 2007
666 posts
Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:22 pm to
Could be why Mett not on campus yet? No need to learn GC's offense. One can only hope.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26665 posts
Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:26 pm to
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kragthorpe would be a good hire whether you believe so or not.

Sell him to me then

Because this is all I know about him:

Total offense
2007: 6th
2008: 25th
2009: 91st

Scoring offense
2007: 18th
2008: 84th
2009: 111th
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