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Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:46 pm to TheCaterpillar
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:46 pm to TheCaterpillar
I think most LSU fans simply want someone who has been an OC in, idk, the last couple decades.
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:49 pm to TheCaterpillar
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They just want competent QB play and the ability to score points if we have to.
We had that with stud in 2011 (until the last two games) and Cameron in 2013 and everyone hated them too
Hell, we hated Jimbo when he was here. See a pattern?
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:49 pm to NoGeaux
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What makes you think a near 60 year old OC who hasn’t been an OC this century can recruit and develop 4 or 5 Star QB’s?
Did you even attempt to read my entire post? I know it was definitely a wordy, TL;DR type post, but FFS - I addressed all of your concerns.
Now, I'm not a child, so the world isn't going to end if we make this hire like some of y'all believe.
But, I'm definitely not for it, for some really good, supportable, non-emotional reasons.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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We had that with stud in 2011 (until the last two games) and Cameron in 2013 and everyone hated them too
Hell, we hated Jimbo when he was here. See a pattern?
Our fans are stupid. We know this.
Those stupid fans would cut off their left testicle to get Jimbo back calling plays.
Stud wasn't very good though and Miles definitely forced him to be more conservative at times. We just smothered people in 2011 with talent. Good defenses gave our offenses incredible fits (see UGA and Bama).
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:51 pm to lsutiger2010
Say it as much as you like, idiots will still clamor for Ensminger
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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We had that with stud in 2011 (until the last two games)
Our offense wasnt very good in 2011. Our defense and ST destroyed teams and gave the offense every possible advantage.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:53 pm to TheCaterpillar
And Roger, the reason you and I started this back and forth was simply because I said we can't judge Ensminger as an OC from 2016. That's not being fair, whether good or bad for him.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The offense last year was more productive than this year. I mean, I know you hate any hint of positivity but it is what it is
Why are you so sensitive lately? Great. We've "fired" the guy responsible for this year's offense. So just revert back to last year's guy because the offense was a little better? That's fine too, if that's what you want, but don't cry when someone points out substantive information to show why last year's offense may not have been that spectacular.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:54 pm to lsutiger2010
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So do you agree that trying to mimic the Alabama game plan doesn't work?
With better QB play it absolutely works. Mettenberger played lights out in 2013. Chavis was the problem
Regardless of OC, the offense is not going to really change. Not when you have the defense LSU does
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:56 pm to Mo Jeaux
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but don't cry when someone points out substantive information to show why last year's offense may not have been that spectacular.
No one, not a single person has claimed it was spectacular.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:57 pm to TheCaterpillar
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And Roger, the reason you and I started this back and forth was simply because I said we can't judge Ensminger as an OC from 2016. That's not being fair, whether good or bad for him.
It would be the same offense regardless
QB play is a more pressing issue than OC
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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No one, not a single person has claimed it was spectacular.
I was being generous and giving you the benefit of the doubt. To be upset about criticism over an average or mediocre offensive performance is worse.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:59 pm to Mo Jeaux
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be upset about criticism over an average or mediocre offensive performance is worse.
The only upset people here are the gossip queens
Facts = upset
I'll take 32 ppg next year though.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:00 pm to jcole4lsu
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Our offense wasnt very good in 2011. Our defense and ST destroyed teams and gave the offense every possible advantage.
Statistically it was.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It would be the same offense regardless
If this is true, it’s only because O would be screwing with the offense no matter who the OC is.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Statistically it was.
So you are more interested in winning an argument than the truth. Truth is, without that stellar defense and ST in 2011 we would not have sniffed the national championship game.
All of this is a waste of time. Does ANYONE actually believe that an Ensminger/Sullivan led offense put us in position to win in Atlanta? If not, what are we doing it for?
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:12 pm to 00 Tech Grad
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this is true, it’s only because O would be screwing with the offense no matter who the OC is.
Some of yall dont understand the game at all.
The offense and defense will always play into the larger gameplan.
If you want to know what O wants go back to the early 00s and look at pete carolls philosopht. The qB as a point guard, control the ball, have both playmakers and ball control elements.
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