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re: Tom Herman is a fraud.

Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
11953 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:25 pm to
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you really have no clue of what he could do at a bigger university with more talent.
That can be said for well over half of the coaches in college football.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:26 pm to
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Oregerons body of work is pretty unimpressive


If Herman gets credit for what Urban Meyer did at Ohio State, should coach O get credit for what Jimmy Johnson and Dennis Erickson did at Miami, Pete Carroll did at USC or Sean Payton had done with the Saints?
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61865 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:27 pm to
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If Herman gets credit for what Urban Meyer did at Ohio State, should coach O get credit for what Jimmy Johnson and Dennis Erickson did at Miami, Pete Carroll did at USC or Sean Payton had done with the Saints?

lolwut
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
40386 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:28 pm to
Hell, for two national titles at USC he was associate head coach, D-Line and recruiting coordinator.

I only remember one title. LSU won it in 2003. When was the other?
Posted by KingBeingking
Member since Jul 2014
2422 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:33 pm to
Herman isn't my top choice. I'm on the jimbo bus. I'm just saying that college football isn't always black and white.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:33 pm to
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Oregerons body of work is pretty unimpressive
Every successful person in the history of the world was once unimpressive, not counting Jesus.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:36 pm to
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He is a good mid-major coach and a good OC. Nothing more.


And you know this how? He's never been HC at a major football program.



You complaining, I thought the guy was paying him a compliment. The UCF coach just said Houston has -12 rushing yards after the end of the first half. My opinion would be quite a bit more harsh.

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Honestly, i think he ends up at Texas because jimbo just seems like who we end up with based on the pieces of the puzzle.


He better try to turn things around or he will be lucky to be the coach at Houston next year, much less the Texas Longhorns.

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Yes he could flop, but what makes you KNOW he will.


Maybe he watched his last three games and is watching Houston's home game against UCF today?

Me on the other hand, I have the uncanny ability to predict events as they happen.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:36 pm to
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That can be said for well over half of the coaches in college football.



That's kinda my point. No one knows for sure. He will get his shot to prove it though. I just doubt it will be at LSU.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:42 pm to
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It's hard to motivate a team when they know you're gone
unlike LSU, whose HC situation is solid as a rock
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:43 pm to
For the sake of others here let's just refrain from running in circles again. Lol.

Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62493 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:43 pm to
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Oh I get it. We have to ignore 35 games of Coach Os history, but can't ignore 1 game in Hermans. Sounds fair


To be fair, this is the 4th game in a row they've laid turds. They may come back to win, but they've mustered all if 3 points and -12 yards rushing at the half against UCF. At home. Not too impressive for an offensive savant. And his team has played indisciplined, having 2 personal foul penalties that extended drives that ended in touchdown. I am not advocating for Orgeron at all, but if you still think the same of Herman today as you did weeks ago, then. I don't think you're being intellectually honest.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:45 pm to
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He will get his shot to prove it though.


Isn't that what he is supposed to be doing at Houston? They guy is costing himself a lot of money right now if not a job.
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
11953 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:45 pm to
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I just doubt it will be at LSU.
I hope you're right!
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:47 pm to
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quote:
It's hard to motivate a team when they know you're gone


unlike LSU, whose HC situation is solid as a rock



Man, it would be a total mess at LSU if there was something as bad as rumors of a coaching change going around. I would hate to think of what could happen in that scenario.

I wouldn't even watch the Alabama game
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:49 pm to
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Tom Herman is a fraud.
For the sake of others here let's just refrain from running in circles again. Lol.


Okay, let's talk about the Houston home game against UCF. That's current and new and this thread IS about Tom Herman.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:52 pm to
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To be fair, this is the 4th game in a row they've laid turds. They may come back to win, but they've mustered all if 3 points and -12 yards rushing at the half against UCF. At home. Not too impressive for an offensive savant. And his team has played indisciplined, having 2 personal foul penalties that extended drives that ended in touchdown. I am not advocating for Orgeron at all, but if you still think the same of Herman today as you did weeks ago, then. I don't think you're being intellectually honest.


I agree 100% with this.
Posted by doya2
Charenton
Member since Jan 2005
8813 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:52 pm to
Maybe all the players have mono.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
41068 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:53 pm to
O should hire him as OC.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:53 pm to
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Isn't that what he is supposed to be doing at Houston? They guy is costing himself a lot of money right now if not a job.


Agreed, but i still think someone takes the chance.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:55 pm to
Playing poorly. Hurting Herman's stock for sure.
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