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The Role Of Alleva In Miles' Decision
Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:04 pm
Does Alleva play a significant factor in Miles' decision on whether to stay at LSU or go to Michigan? Alleva did not hire Miles; he is not his guy. What is their relationship like? Does Alleva try to convince Miles to stay? Or does he act indifferent and see this as an opportunity to really make a big call and put his stamp on the program?
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Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:08 pm to GABlueDog
If anything, I think LSU opening up the checkbook is going to be what keeps Les here. Everything that's being done is either real interest in Michigan or using it as leverage to ask for more money (which would be pathetic on Les' part in my opinion, but that's just my opinion). It could be both too.
In the end, Les should get an extra year in his contract obviously after this year, but if he seriously asks for more money (i.e. higher salary and benefits outside of an extension)from LSU given the State's economic issues, he needs to GTFO and head up to Ann Arbor.
In the end, Les should get an extra year in his contract obviously after this year, but if he seriously asks for more money (i.e. higher salary and benefits outside of an extension)from LSU given the State's economic issues, he needs to GTFO and head up to Ann Arbor.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:13 pm to LSUMafia
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In the end, Les should get an extra year in his contract obviously after this year, but if he seriously asks for more money (i.e. higher salary and benefits outside of an extension)from LSU given the State's economic issues, he needs to GTFO and head up to Ann Arbor.
the state's portion of his salary is minimal and any likely raise will be through other means.
LSU is in a very strong position in football right now, and you have to weigh momentum against possible disruption when making a decision.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:13 pm to GABlueDog
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Does Alleva play a significant factor in Miles' decision on whether to stay at LSU or go to Michigan? Alleva did not hire Miles; he is not his guy. What is their relationship like? Does Alleva try to convince Miles to stay?
Don't know.
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Or does he act indifferent and see this as an opportunity to really make a big call and put his stamp on the program?
Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly how he's thinking about it.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:17 pm to DanglingFury
did you really answer someone's question saying you "don't know" try laying off the response button for a few minutes
Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:22 pm to ForeLSU
ForeLSU, I realize that Les gets most of his money from the TAF and media with only $300k or so coming from the state.
That said, it's sadly about perception more than anything, and it really sets a poor example in my opinion, but again, others may see it differently.
That said, it's sadly about perception more than anything, and it really sets a poor example in my opinion, but again, others may see it differently.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:24 pm to SouthEZtiger
Alleva's role should be to have already had a search firm out talking to guys like Mullen and guaging their interest in case of the inevitable. This should have been done 2-3 days ago when Harbough turned down the UM job.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:25 pm to LSUMafia
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In the end, Les should get an extra year in his contract obviously after this year, but if he seriously asks for more money (i.e. higher salary and benefits outside of an extension)from LSU given the State's economic issues, he needs to GTFO and head up to Ann Arbor.
What's ironic is that the ecomonic down turn of Michigan is worse than in Louisiana. He would be going to an area that has had higher unemployment of its citizens to receive a higher salary...
Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:33 pm to TigerTailsSoup
Very true, but he likely would be getting around $3.5M to $4M there which is basically his salary here. That's not as big a deal as him getting more money here for winning the freaking Cotton Bowl.
Like I said, an extension to 4-5 years (likely 1 or 2 years on his current deal) with the same basic terms as we have now, and I'd be fine with it.
He's already making too much in the eyes of many, and without getting even an SEC West title since his last raise and being 14-10 in the SEC since that time doesn't merit a huge raise to keep him.
Yes, I realize that the QB situation held back this team, but who is ultimately responsible for that predicament? Les. You can't say how he did so amazing in spite of this limitation when he is at fault for that same limitation.
Like I said, an extension to 4-5 years (likely 1 or 2 years on his current deal) with the same basic terms as we have now, and I'd be fine with it.
He's already making too much in the eyes of many, and without getting even an SEC West title since his last raise and being 14-10 in the SEC since that time doesn't merit a huge raise to keep him.
Yes, I realize that the QB situation held back this team, but who is ultimately responsible for that predicament? Les. You can't say how he did so amazing in spite of this limitation when he is at fault for that same limitation.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:35 pm to LSUMafia
Les isn't asking for a larger (money) contract.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:38 pm to LSUMafia
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Like I said, an extension to 4-5 years (likely 1 or 2 years on his current deal) with the same basic terms as we have now, and I'd be fine with it.
the problem with the contract is the rollover and the buyout, we'd be better off bumping him up a million a year and doing away with the other provisions.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:43 pm to ForeLSU
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the problem with the contract is the rollover and the buyout, we'd be better off bumping him up a million a year and doing away with the other provisions.
From what CajunRevolution was discussing the other night, the buyout is pretty much fixed at the entire contract. The whole thing is guaranteed outside of bonuses, and the rollover option is SOP.
Like I said, if Les ends up getting more money, I'll definitely be pissed.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:52 pm to LSUMafia
LsuMafia.....the word Inget is that negotiations that bare ongoing are involving several issues.....AND money $$$ is NOT one of them....
Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:55 pm to GABlueDog
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What is their relationship like?
I have met the guy and asked him about the then-upcoming season (2010). He seemed skeptical.
I think he is, if anything, pleasantly surprised with how Miles seems to have this thing turned around.
I believe he was playing wait-and-see with Miles, but now that Miles has proved his worth, Alleva will fight to keep him.
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Or does he act indifferent and see this as an opportunity to really make a big call and put his stamp on the program?
I don't think Alleva has that kind of ego. My impression is that he is demanding and he understands his role. He's not here to shake things up. He's here to sustain the good thing we already had going when he got here.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 9:15 pm to LSUMafia
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Yes, I realize that the QB situation held back this team, but who is ultimately responsible for that predicament? Les. You can't say how he did so amazing in spite of this limitation when he is at fault for that same limitation.
You can when the purpose of your analysis is to predict what lies ahead of us rather account for the problems behind us.
If I were LSU, I would offer Miles a substantial raise while eliminating the rollover clause in his contract. His salary isn't nearly as big of a negative as being helpless to make a change due to the buyout amount.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 9:18 pm to TxTiger82
Quality feedback...thanks.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 9:25 pm to GABlueDog
For the record, I am a huge critic of Joe Alleva. I think he is a horrible leader who relies on nepotism to fill out far too many positions, and he squirms the minute genuine action is needed. That being said...
If we lose Les to Michigan, it will not be Alleva's fault. His biggest strengths are that he is very easygoing and nice to everyone. He has a minimal ego.
He is not the kind of guy who wants the spotlight on himself. He hates confrontation, and he loves to maintain the status quo when possible.
If we lose Les to Michigan, it will not be Alleva's fault. His biggest strengths are that he is very easygoing and nice to everyone. He has a minimal ego.
He is not the kind of guy who wants the spotlight on himself. He hates confrontation, and he loves to maintain the status quo when possible.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 9:27 pm to Keys Open Doors
I tend to agree...which worries me when I think of Alleva hiring a new coach.
Posted on 1/9/11 at 9:33 pm to GABlueDog
I mean he isn't going to hire a personal friend who is an overweight bully with an alcohol problem. It's not like Alleva's still in charge of the Duke baseball team...
I am sure they will go out and make a decent hire if Les decides to leave. Hire consultants, use the search committees, etc. However, I agree with you that Alleva certainly lacks Emmert's intuition for this kind of stuff.
Ideal situation: Les stays with a similar contract and 3 year extension.
I am sure they will go out and make a decent hire if Les decides to leave. Hire consultants, use the search committees, etc. However, I agree with you that Alleva certainly lacks Emmert's intuition for this kind of stuff.
Ideal situation: Les stays with a similar contract and 3 year extension.
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