re: The case for keeping Gary Crowton...

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Keep ignoring his history.

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I'm not ignoring his history. I have read it many times on this web site.

However, we have a spoiled fan base that is rife with bandwagoners that post on this site that do not remember, were not old enough to remember the bad times when LSU struggled to have winning seasons.

Everyone is mad as hell and wants a scapegoat or scapegoats because of what? We didn't beat Ole Miss? We went 9-3? Our offense was ranked 108?

Yes everyone is ignoring the elephant in the room that is an inexperienced QB two years in a row and tremendous OL attrition.

Football is about Championships and LSU was not going to win one in 2008 or 2009 with the QBs we had. That is a fact!

I don't like many things about Gary Crowton, but I have to put myself is his shoes and look at the performance of LSU in the context of the history of the program and my 35 years of watching and playing football.

And, unlike the people that are pissed-off and want to blame someone, I blame Ryan Perriloux for being a screw up off the field and wasting LSU's time and costing us a NC if he could have simply gone to class and stayed out of trouble. But, our fan base can't take out it's anger where it belongs because that person is no longer at LSU.

And, unlike the people that are pissed-off and want heads to roll at all costs, I still think that we can win a NC or SEC Championship next year. And, firing Gary Crowton writes off next year and severely decreases our chances of winning a championship next year. And, if it does not happen next year, we can get rid of Crowton and Miles or just Crowton. But, at least we will have a Sr. QB and other offensive coaches to provide some continuity and transition stability to our offense.

The difference between me and most of the rest of you is that I have not given up on Crowton and next year. Most of the rest of you are not thinking about the consequences and or are willing to write of next year.

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The fact is that Crowton's salary should demonstrate some serious progression in our QBs. Lee regressed and JJ progressed minimally. It's not about inexperience. Look at what Sam Bradford did with "inexperience"? Yup, only had two of the best seasons in OU history.

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Sam Bradford was a Redshirt Sophomore when he won the Heisman last year.

Thanks for making my point!

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I think he and Colt McCoy both did pretty darn well as RS Freshmen. Look up their stats.

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I started a post about 3 weeks ago talking about all the offenses in college football that are still kicking arse even with a freshman QB. Writing it made me want to vomit.

Even Johnny Cochran couldn't win this case.

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did you forget the options to the short side w/ a QB that can't run it? Did you forget the option w/ an injured QB? Did you forget the clusterfrick that was the end of the OM game? Did you forget 108 in the nation?? You blow off J. Lee's season as if Crowton had nothing to do w/ his regression. you point out 9-3 but cannot see the forest for the trees.

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I totally agree with this... There is a major problem when you are running a freaking option with a QB who can barely run! I think Crowton's problem is not that he cant coach well its that he is hardheaded and keeps running plays that have been shown time and time again to not work!

Why in the hell are we passing the damn ball against OM on their 31 with a QB who is KNOWN to take sacks? That is Crowton's mode of operation... What clues have been laid that he will not continue to do this?????

Crowton is an enigma with the way he chooses to call the offense and completely baffles me at times!

Good post sonny... The only reason i would want to keep him if we knew for sure things will change, but we dont. I feel like we need to get someone in here so when JJ is a senior and rs a Junior they will be running on all cylinders. I still think we have a shot at the west either way next yr, but we all know we are losing at least 2 games.

The case for Crowton is flawed. Our 9-3 record is based on our talent level. Our nine wins were over teams that we were more talented than. When we faced a team with talent on par with us, we lost. There is no excuse for being ranked 108 in the country in total offense. That is the OC's fault. Les stated that this was the best OL he has had here. With that endorsement and 5-6 NFL players at the skill positions. Our offense was terrible and changes must be made. If Les brings back Crowton and we have a similar year where we go 8-4 or 9-3 and get out coached like we did this year, then after next year they both should go. Our talent level is on par with anyone in the country. 108 is unacceptable

I could not agree more. Crowton's offensive schemes lack continuity and keep the kids off kilter. A new OC could not make it worse. I saw, give GC his walking papers. He is obviously and exceptionally nice guy. But he is not the man for this job.

He has failed us for two years. And, if we keep him, it will three. With a new OC, and proper utilization of Russell Shephard, we might have a great team two years from now. Keeping Crowton is a mistake. If we are losing the Offensive Assts, it is time to replace the OC as well. I say bring in a new OC and let him pick his assistants and lets rebuild this offense.

I for one don't mind mistakes, if we see growth from week to week. LSU has had two years of miserable offense. How much more do we want to endure. Two years is enough. I assure you if Crowton was the HC, he would already be gone.