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Sonny G
| Favorite team: | LSU  |
| Location: | Houston, TX |
| Biography: | Lousiana Native |
| Interests: | LSU Sports |
| Occupation: | Analyst |
| Number of Posts: | 508 |
| Registered on: | 5/10/2009 |
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D.J. Pettway a DT from Pensacola, FL just committed to Bama today...did you see it already?
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"Today went great going against the guys, which I love," said Johnson, "Coach told me I had already received the defensive MVP, but the spin move [in one-on-one's] already solidified that. The camps were basically the same, but being in Louisiana I had to represent with my boys. Louisiana is probably going to be one of the best classes in the history of recruiting I would say. "
Baton Rouge Combine: By Gerry Hamilton
What HS Senior football player that is going to play big-time football in college does not want to be part of a top 3 recruiting class?
Looks good for LSU and Mickey Johnson from my point of view! :cheers:
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Landry looks at home in Baton Rouge
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The picture of Landry was taken on the LSU practice field where the combine was held.
Yes, I was mislead by the article (brain fart) and I clearly see that now in the picture...thanks for pointing that out.
Here is the other artilce:
Baton Rouge NIKE Combine: By Gerry Hamilton
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Personally wouldn't mind taking him only after we get a elite QB in this class.
Things do not look good geographically for LSU to take an elite QB in 2011. The Arkansas kid will probably go to OU or Fayetteville. All the other "elites" are on the east coast. Sam Montgomery is the only guy that I know of that was "elite" that we have taken from the east coast. Yes, LSU has landed some "whales" at other positions from Florida and you could possibly say GA, but never at QB.
Looks like a longshot...so you better be happy with Oliver...that looks about as good as it is going to get.
Sorry for the reality check...
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At least the photo of Landry was one in Tiger Stadium wearing a "black & purple LSU hat"!
Even ESPN couldn't "F" that up for us! :cheers:
Geaux Jarvis!
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Even ESPN couldn't "F" that up for us! :cheers:
Geaux Jarvis!
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My opinion (they are like assholes and I have one) is we don't take any QB commits in 2011 if Lee doesn't go pro baseball.
And if we do offer Oliver or any other QB, it's a greyshirt.
Why? Because LSU has in it's backyard (the state of Louisiana) the best class in it's history. With LSU lacking good defensive tackles the last 2 years, we need to take at least three. I'm not counting Quinten Thomas as a DT, but as a DE with Rasco. We need to take Freak Johnson, Mickey Johnson, and Hunter. With the number of DE offers LSU has out there right now, its a cinch that LSU wants at least 2 DEs.
Spots are limited this year to possibly only 22 commits that can be taken. LSU needs WRs, CBs, LBs, OLmen (only three taken last year) and especially DTs (only three taken the last 2 years) and Davenport (according to some reports) may not pan out (move to OL).
Freak is a top 3 DT, Mickey will be top 10 in DTs by February, and Hunter will be top 25.
At QB, LSU has Lee & JJ for the next 2 years. Garret for the next 4 and possibly Lee for the next 5. QB is not that important right now. I maintain that sweeping the bumper crop of LA in 2011 is more important than a QB.
However, I realize than many will disagree and I respect that.
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And if we do offer Oliver or any other QB, it's a greyshirt.
Why? Because LSU has in it's backyard (the state of Louisiana) the best class in it's history. With LSU lacking good defensive tackles the last 2 years, we need to take at least three. I'm not counting Quinten Thomas as a DT, but as a DE with Rasco. We need to take Freak Johnson, Mickey Johnson, and Hunter. With the number of DE offers LSU has out there right now, its a cinch that LSU wants at least 2 DEs.
Spots are limited this year to possibly only 22 commits that can be taken. LSU needs WRs, CBs, LBs, OLmen (only three taken last year) and especially DTs (only three taken the last 2 years) and Davenport (according to some reports) may not pan out (move to OL).
Freak is a top 3 DT, Mickey will be top 10 in DTs by February, and Hunter will be top 25.
At QB, LSU has Lee & JJ for the next 2 years. Garret for the next 4 and possibly Lee for the next 5. QB is not that important right now. I maintain that sweeping the bumper crop of LA in 2011 is more important than a QB.
However, I realize than many will disagree and I respect that.
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re: BR Nike Camp
Posted by Sonny G on 4/18/10 at 10:56 am to tigerbru17
Did Quinton Thomas come to the Nike camp?
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Chucky Hunter Film for free
After watching his film, LSU is crazy to let this young man get away without an offer. Yes, he needs to work on technique, but most kids do. However, as you can see, he has tremendous potential.
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After watching his film, LSU is crazy to let this young man get away without an offer. Yes, he needs to work on technique, but most kids do. However, as you can see, he has tremendous potential.
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I understand. I do not like to see the harsh criticism that flows from the boards at times, and I admit to be one of the people that sometimes does taken an opinionated stance. Only on the rare occasion do I voice it against a specific player, typically referring to disagreeing/questioning the methodology behind the players recruitment (i.e. the Houston Bates saga).
The main problems I have are when people who THINK they know a decent bit about recruiting, really don't have any clue about the process. Judging talent is quite subjective and while most can agree when a player is good or not, no one can be right all the time on a player's future success.
However, those who do follow it closely know the process of recruiting and all the different details that must be tied together to truly evaluate a program and a player.
If you ever see someone suspicious of the "Seminar-LSU fan" syndrome, please let me know because I would like to see how I would view the situation.
In all honesty, from those that regularly post on this board, I do not know many that I think would fall into this category. I do think there are trolls that randomly pop up, but they don't stick around for too long.
You would have a better case on a board like TSD, where guys like WPT and others have a record of bashing LSU and its tactics 80%+ of the time. Those are the ones that even I tend to raise an eyebrow about.
Yes, Lynx, I agree that much of the negativity stems from disagreements as to talent level or just unhappy LSU fans with a negative attitude.
However, read the thread about Mickey Johnson. I'm not going to call out any one individual in the thread because it might be "ban" material against me (no need to get on the bad side of the admins). However, you read the thread and judge for yourself whom you think could be a "seminar-poster" or "troll" if you will. I'll leave it up to you to determine in your own mind.
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no shite... you think they just answer any jerk off's call or text or email on the air?
There are many who would love to discuss on the poly board...take it there. The point of this discussion is "seminar-posters" not "seminar-callers". Please don't high-jack my thread with a political debate.
Thank you...
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Stressing wayyyy too much. You don't think this goes both ways?
I don't visit other team's recruiting sites very often, so I wouldn't know, but if you do, you would know. Although, I've visted just enough to know how good this board is.
And, you are a very reputable person from everything that I have read about you or that you have written, so I would take your word for it.
I'm not stressed out about it, but after reading alot of negativity by "LSU fans" regarding kids that I know are predisposed geographically (most want to stay in state, play for a great program, and do it where their parents can come to all thier home games) to have loyalty to LSU...2+2 does not equal 5.
Many of these kids/prospects are obvously div 1 talent and when "LSU fans" rag on them and/or their talent and the kid is high on LSU...it just simply does not make sense...
thus I know that a large percentage of them are Seminar-LSU recruiting fans...
my number of posts is not indicative as to how long I've been following recruiting or reading this site... :cheers:
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NOTICE: Beware of "seminar-LSU Recruiting Fans" - seminar-posters
Posted by Sonny G on 4/17/10 at 2:42 am
"seminar-LSU Recruiting Fan" or "seminar-poster" is my spoof of the term:
"A seminar caller is someone who mainly telephones conservative radio talk shows for the purpose of astroturfing, which is the mass promotion of a particular product, service, or opposing political point of view as if it were genuinely spontaneous, or grassroots.
Many seminar callers try to portray themselves as regular people, claim to agree with the host's point of view, then begin to read a contrary opinion from an agenda or list of talking points widely circulated by a group or organization who oppose the views of the host.[1]
Seminar callers get their name from the seminars they attend to learn how to most effectively get their message on the air. However, faxes, e-mails and newsletters are more common modes of disseminating astroturf messages to seminar callers.
Before the 2004 U.S. presidential election, seminar callers began to tell more elaborate stories to establish credibility, behaving as if they were actors playing the role of someone with beliefs opposite of their own, in an attempt to erode the opposing candidate's "base" of political support.
The term "seminar caller" was most likely coined by conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh[2], but is in wide use among talk show hosts and audiences."
"Astroturfing is an English-language term referring to political, advertising, or public relations campaigns that are formally planned by an organization, but designed to mask its origins to create the impression of being spontaneous, popular "grassroots" behavior. The term refers to AstroTurf, a brand of synthetic carpeting designed to look like natural grass.
The goal of such a campaign is to disguise the efforts of a political or commercial entity as an independent public reaction to some political entity—a politician, political group, product, service or event. Astroturfers attempt to orchestrate the actions of apparently diverse and geographically distributed individuals, by both overt ("outreach", "awareness", etc.) and covert (disinformation) means. Astroturfing may be undertaken by an individual pushing a personal agenda or highly organized professional groups with financial backing from large corporations, unions, non-profits, or activist organizations. Very often the efforts are conducted by political consultants who also specialize in opposition research. Beneficiaries are not "grass root" campaigners but distant organizations that orchestrate such campaigns."
There are many on this site that are "posing" as LSU fans, but are die-hard fans of other programs in actuality. Their sole mission is free information about recruiting and to promote anti-LSU or negtive opinions of LSU prospects.
The benefits to them are two fold: They hope that LSU prospects read their negative comments about them, the prospect thinks that "real" LSU fans are saying these things, and the prospect is turned off by the "negative posts" so that they either decommit from LSU or don't commit to LSU.
They also like to cast doubt on where LSU stand with recruits...they do this by providing rumors or just flat out lies about what a recruit's feelings are toward LSU and LSU's chances in signing or getting a verbal from that recruit.
This problem is getting worse now that the SEC board is very, very popular and other teams recruiting sites are so poor compared to TigerDroppings. Obviously, the success and quality of this board can be a double edge sword.
Beware!
seminar-posters
We are wise to your tricks and agenda...you're not fooling me.
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"A seminar caller is someone who mainly telephones conservative radio talk shows for the purpose of astroturfing, which is the mass promotion of a particular product, service, or opposing political point of view as if it were genuinely spontaneous, or grassroots.
Many seminar callers try to portray themselves as regular people, claim to agree with the host's point of view, then begin to read a contrary opinion from an agenda or list of talking points widely circulated by a group or organization who oppose the views of the host.[1]
Seminar callers get their name from the seminars they attend to learn how to most effectively get their message on the air. However, faxes, e-mails and newsletters are more common modes of disseminating astroturf messages to seminar callers.
Before the 2004 U.S. presidential election, seminar callers began to tell more elaborate stories to establish credibility, behaving as if they were actors playing the role of someone with beliefs opposite of their own, in an attempt to erode the opposing candidate's "base" of political support.
The term "seminar caller" was most likely coined by conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh[2], but is in wide use among talk show hosts and audiences."
"Astroturfing is an English-language term referring to political, advertising, or public relations campaigns that are formally planned by an organization, but designed to mask its origins to create the impression of being spontaneous, popular "grassroots" behavior. The term refers to AstroTurf, a brand of synthetic carpeting designed to look like natural grass.
The goal of such a campaign is to disguise the efforts of a political or commercial entity as an independent public reaction to some political entity—a politician, political group, product, service or event. Astroturfers attempt to orchestrate the actions of apparently diverse and geographically distributed individuals, by both overt ("outreach", "awareness", etc.) and covert (disinformation) means. Astroturfing may be undertaken by an individual pushing a personal agenda or highly organized professional groups with financial backing from large corporations, unions, non-profits, or activist organizations. Very often the efforts are conducted by political consultants who also specialize in opposition research. Beneficiaries are not "grass root" campaigners but distant organizations that orchestrate such campaigns."
There are many on this site that are "posing" as LSU fans, but are die-hard fans of other programs in actuality. Their sole mission is free information about recruiting and to promote anti-LSU or negtive opinions of LSU prospects.
The benefits to them are two fold: They hope that LSU prospects read their negative comments about them, the prospect thinks that "real" LSU fans are saying these things, and the prospect is turned off by the "negative posts" so that they either decommit from LSU or don't commit to LSU.
They also like to cast doubt on where LSU stand with recruits...they do this by providing rumors or just flat out lies about what a recruit's feelings are toward LSU and LSU's chances in signing or getting a verbal from that recruit.
This problem is getting worse now that the SEC board is very, very popular and other teams recruiting sites are so poor compared to TigerDroppings. Obviously, the success and quality of this board can be a double edge sword.
Beware!
seminar-posters
We are wise to your tricks and agenda...you're not fooling me.
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re: Mickey Johnson
Posted by Sonny G on 4/17/10 at 2:30 am to tigerbru17
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Me either.If it's true then he's a great and habitual liar which i don't believe.
The young man sounded nothing like the statments we heard from Joe McKnight. Mickey has great character...that was easy to pick up from his radio interview.
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re: Mickey Johnson
Posted by Sonny G on 4/16/10 at 9:21 pm to the LSUSaint
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But MJ?......he's not into us at all.
Here's an excerpt
“I like the idea of playing under a coach that is strong on defense like Charlie Strong, Nick Saban or Bo Pellini.“
“I’m originally from San Diego, I was born there. I’ve only lived here for eight years, so it’s not like I grew up an LSU fan.” Johnson added,
would love to get an offer from, Johnson quickly replied, “SC. I’d love to have a chance to play for USC.”
“Alabama, Nebraska, Ole Miss, Tennessee and Oklahoma State really stand out to me right now.” Johnson said. “Alabama and Oklahoma State are the schools recruiting me the hardest right now.”
What's bizarre is that he seemed to be begging for an LSU offer...before he was offered. The guy has been to at least two LSU summer camps (past two years running) already and will probably be at the LSU camp this summer.
Unless he is just trying to improve his skills and gain publicity by taking advantage of the strongest div 1 school geographically closest to him (LSU in BR), the guy has to have LSU in his top three.
I'm not buying the story that he is not interested in LSU.
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I hear you but it's Southern Cal, not UT. They get the cream of the crop, and as much as I like Mickey Johnson......he is not a 5* just yet.
It would be a classic O move to offer him though
Once USC offers, and Orgeron will offer - make no mistake about that, MJ is going to move into the top 10 of the DT rankings.
Then, if he commits to somewhere else, TD board will be as sick as I will be (melt-down-mode).
That's my prediction and I'm sticking to it.
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Really hope we get this guy.
+1
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re: Houston Bates signs with Illnois
Posted by Sonny G on 4/14/10 at 5:52 pm to NastyTiger
Good luck Houston!
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Um, we play them in 2012.
Yep, we sure do.
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I hope the U. of Washington lands him. F..USC! :cheers: :geauxtigers:
re: Renaldo Thomas safety St. Aug
Posted by Sonny G on 4/10/10 at 9:33 am to TigerSinceBirth4Life
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