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re: THANK GOD, LSU didn't hire Tom Herman

Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:13 pm to
We will get to see it play out. Hope it is not a train wreck.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:24 pm to
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We will get to see it play out. Hope it is not a train wreck


I do too. But the bad thing is if Alleva is retained and Oregeron is successful then will he really think going cheap and hiring the least qualified coach is a winning formula?
I will never want lsu to lose so all i can hope for is that Alleva either moves on or is fired.
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
6330 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:26 pm to
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No, showing that he he is obviously getting worse as time goes on. He was coaching another coach's players in entirety his first year. His second year at one time his team was the #6 ranked team in the country with a shot at the playoffs. He totally shite the bed and still is with his lost to Memphis.


O started 3-0 then went 2-2 his last four. Obviously getting worse. He only scored 10 against Florida, who was a 14 point underdog coming into Tiger Stadium without a large number of their starters. Think about that. UF would have to score -5 points to cover the spread. Hell, Jimbo's team scored 31 against UF. Probably should have skipped hiring O too.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:31 pm to
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O started 3-0 then went 2-2 his last four. Obviously getting worse. He only scored 10 against Florida, who was a 14 point underdog coming into Tiger Stadium without a large number of their starters. Think about that. UF would have to score -5 points to cover the spread. Hell, Jimbo's team scored 31 against UF. Probably should have skipped hiring O too.



He also refuses to give credit to herman for Houston's 1st 2 years because they werent HIS PLAYERS, yet touts O's interim records.
Pathetic.
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
13295 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:51 pm to
He's qa moron for his opinion that is based on facts related to tom hermans record last year as a head coach?! You're frickin stupid. The guy has won some games he wasnt supposed to but also lost some games that he wasn't supposed to. I believe it was a smart move by lsu to pass on herman. Coach o has at least proven what he can do at lsu against the best, alabama, what the hell has herman proved?! Not a damn thing. We got the man who wants to coachieve at lsu and herman/jimbo just used us as a bargaining chip. frick them. Let's ride for O!
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
7720 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:52 pm to
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He also refuses to give credit to herman for Houston's 1st 2 years because they werent HIS PLAYERS, yet touts O's interim records.
Pathetic.


Is he thanking God because the traffic is going to be much lighter on game night in a few years?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:55 pm to
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He's qa moron for his opinion that is based on facts related to tom hermans record last year as a head coach


Ed orgeron won 3 sec games during his only time as anything above dline coach.
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The guy has won some games he wasnt supposed to but also lost some games that he wasn't supposed to.


What herman has done is better than LOSE ALL THE GAMES like Orgeron.
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Coach o has at least proven what he can do at lsu against the best, alabama, what the hell has herman proved?!


Whats that? Lose using he same exact gameplan we said was unacceptable from Miles?
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We got the man who wants to coachieve at lsu


Well hell, my son wants to be lsu's head coach too. AND GUESS WHAT?
MY SON HAS RAN AS MANY SUCCESSFUL OFFENSES, DEFENSES , AND SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS AS ED ORGERON.

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frick them. Let's ride for O!


Yeah frick hiring the most qualified person.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 1:56 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86508 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:18 pm to
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A guy not qualified for Vandy's job is somehow a good hire at lsu?
Who said he wasn't qualified?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60812 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:23 pm to
Tiger Ree, 2 questions have you ever explained why you focus only Herman's losses and not his entire resume?

2) would you rather a coach that never loses to a "lesser" team but also always loses to better or equal teams?

Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60812 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:29 pm to
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Did Hermguy run the offense when Houston put up 303 total yards in the 38-16 loss to SMU? Did he run the offense when Houston put up 296 total yards against Tulane?


So using this logic, Saban is a bad defensive coach because he gave up 40 to Ole Miss (a less talented team) on top pf 40 last year to Clemson (a less talented team) not to mention a slew of other games over the last 3-4 years.

Why do you cherry pick games? When you base your judgement only on certain games, even the worse games you show you are biased or don't know what you are talking about, so you calling others idiots defines irony.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:30 pm to
No way to know. I am a huge Alleva non-fan. So there's that...
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60812 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:33 pm to
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Secondly, Herman being a better coach is your opinion.


It is also the opinion of the vast majority of college football analysts and experts. You'd be hard pressed to find any neutral observor that would favor Orgeron over Herman.

and you'd find absolutely ZERO that would use this criteria:

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After losing to three inferior teams that he was favored to beat - one by 22 points - in his last 7 games
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:46 pm to
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Who said he wasn't qualified?


Every AD except Alleva.
Never running a successful offense, defense , or program means youre not qualified.
Do you watch cfb?

Derek Mason has a better resume than ed orgeron. Its like you just want to forget that ed orgeron HAS NEVER been successful above dline coach. 29 of his 32 years is at dline. In no way does that qualify you to be a hc unless some AD likes to hire the least qualified candidate possible. Which is exactly what happened at lsu.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:49 pm to
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Why do you cherry pick games? When you base your judgement only on certain games, even the worse games you show you are biased or don't know what you are talking about, so you calling others idiots defines irony.



All you need to know about his stance his that he touts Orgeron's interim tenures and refuses to give Herman credit for the 1st 2 years at Houston because they werent his players.
Posted by sheek
New Albany, OH
Member since Sep 2007
44131 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 3:26 pm to
You will be waiting a while for him to answer with new talking points. He has like 3 lines he used for this entire thread.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 3:29 pm to
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wont give Herman that same credit when was the actual head coach


Okay, Herman did a great job losing 3 of his last 7 games to inferior teams and finishing 6th in his shitty conference.

Feel better?
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 3:31 pm to
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Probably should have skipped hiring O too.



Possible, remains to be seen. At least they didn't hire the offensive genius who managed a whopping 303 total yards in a 38-16 loss to SMU, when favored by 22 points.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60812 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 3:31 pm to
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He has like 3 lines he used for this entire thread.

and multiple others. Maybe Herman ran over his dog or slept with his mom that's the only reason to explain this unnatural hatred.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 3:34 pm to
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Yeah frick hiring the most qualified person.


Which would definitely rule out the former Houston coach and his sixth place finish in the AAC. Hell, hire any of the five coaches that finished above his team. That would give LSU five options right off the bat.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29857 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 3:35 pm to
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Its amazing you dont see your own hypocrisy.


This. I don't see how he can keep arguing this point with a straight face.
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