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re: Texas and Mack Brown
Posted on 12/13/11 at 5:43 pm to Tarheel Tiger
Posted on 12/13/11 at 5:43 pm to Tarheel Tiger
texas really needs to fire his arse... all that talent with little success makes me cringe
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Posted on 12/13/11 at 6:00 pm to Enfuego
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texas really needs to fire his arse... all that talent with little success makes me cringe
holy horse frick you are dumb
check UT's record from 1984-1997 and get back to me if you think Mack has had little success.
ETA: While you're at it, check out the increase in revenue to the FB program and AD as a whole over that time period.
This post was edited on 12/13/11 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 12/13/11 at 6:21 pm to TejasHorn
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And that's even *if* Saban were interested. Texas fans often wrongly assume we can get whoever we want by throwing money around and reminding everyone that "we're Texas."
damn man, this is almost a confession.
i guess i don't get around that much because i have never heard a tejas fan opine candidly like you. of course, lsu fans aren't exactly overflowing with reality either.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 8:24 pm to ATX Horn
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Chris Petersen is rumored to be the 1st name on the Texas coaching wish list
Posted on 12/13/11 at 8:31 pm to Govt Tide
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After making at least 3 to 4 million + for the better part of the last decade I question just how important money really is to coaches on Saban's level. It isn't like he isn't financially set for the rest of his life already.
On the earliest version of this thread, someone claiming to be a family friend of Mark Diantonio claimed that to Saban, it's not about the dollar amount in the bank. His point was that, in Mark's words, Nick is motivated by being recognized as the best as his craft. He phrased it by saying that Saban "would coach for $200K a year if everyone else made $199K." He went on to say that he feels Saban will eventually return to the B1G and return a former great to NC level, to cement his legacy and remove any doubt that the SEC's talented recruits were what got him all his rings. I think the Saban-to-anywhere rumors that always pop up three days before the Iron Bowl are hilarious, but don't underestimate little man syndrome.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 10:49 pm to Govt Tide
1. Money may matter to Scrooge...I mean, Saban. It's a pride thing. You know, like most top-dollar coaches have a clause in it to be paid at least $1 more than the highest paid coach. Maybe being the highest paid coach by 5 million more than the next appeals to his ego.
2.Saban is a master recruiter who can seal a deal with the best of them. But maybe he'd like not having to fight for every recruit, much less have to fight for in-state recruits with Bama's rival, and then make up for any in-state misses with OOS recruits. He could have the #1 recruiting class every year without trying if he were at Texas, plus a handful of top OOS recruits would run to him.
3. Probably & most importantly, rebuilding Texas & bringing them back to elite status offers him a challenge, and a do-able one at that. One championship every four years bores him & frustrates him in the years when he's not winning one. The opportunity for 3 Championships at 3 different schools gives guys like him a hard-on.
2.Saban is a master recruiter who can seal a deal with the best of them. But maybe he'd like not having to fight for every recruit, much less have to fight for in-state recruits with Bama's rival, and then make up for any in-state misses with OOS recruits. He could have the #1 recruiting class every year without trying if he were at Texas, plus a handful of top OOS recruits would run to him.
3. Probably & most importantly, rebuilding Texas & bringing them back to elite status offers him a challenge, and a do-able one at that. One championship every four years bores him & frustrates him in the years when he's not winning one. The opportunity for 3 Championships at 3 different schools gives guys like him a hard-on.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:05 am to Tarheel Tiger
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Texas fans often wrongly assume we can get whoever we want by throwing money around and reminding everyone that "we're Texas."
Refreshing honesty. Most of my Texas friends think this way.
I think there's almost zero chance Mack Brown is their coach in 2014, wouldn't be surprised if next year is his last. I think they could get Saban because he has that wandering eye and they have the money, but I think Chris Petersen will be their coach in 2013 or 2014. I think Manny Diaz has an underrated chance at being their next guy also, and he would scare the shite out of this A&M fan if he was. Hell of a coach.
This post was edited on 12/14/11 at 2:06 am
Posted on 12/14/11 at 5:40 am to Govt Tide
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Never question just how important money really is to coaches on Saban's level.
fify
Posted on 12/14/11 at 8:51 am to Govt Tide
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After making at least 3 to 4 million + for the better part of the last decade I question just how important money really is to coaches on Saban's level. It isn't like he isn't financially set for the rest of his life already.
Who knows with Spinosa being his business partner for the better half of a decade he may need the money...I kid I kid
Posted on 12/14/11 at 12:52 pm to Lettuce22
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Why would anyone want the Texas job?
I hear that Austin has a world-renowned fake cancer treatment center.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 12:59 pm to Govt Tide
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P.S. I'd never say never with regard to Saban going to Texas but I find it amusing how LSU fans try to convince themselves and others that the Texas job offers all these major on the job advantages that Alabama somehow lacks.
The $300M Hookem TV is what Bammer & all the rest of us lack...and that's just play money that Texass really doesn't need.
$aban could have his own reality show on the network.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 1:07 pm to ATX Horn
I was about to respond when:
is the same things I'm hearing out of Belmont from my buddy....there's really not much talk about Mack's departure/replacement just yet. Give it another year and there will be some substance to it
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Mack will be the HC for 2 more seasons, IMO.
After the 5-7 disaster, he wants to right the ship before turning things over.
Chris Petersen is rumored to be the 1st name on the Texas coaching wish list.
is the same things I'm hearing out of Belmont from my buddy....there's really not much talk about Mack's departure/replacement just yet. Give it another year and there will be some substance to it
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:22 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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On the earliest version of this thread, someone claiming to be a family friend of Mark Diantonio claimed that to Saban, it's not about the dollar amount in the bank. His point was that, in Mark's words, Nick is motivated by being recognized as the best as his craft. He phrased it by saying that Saban "would coach for $200K a year if everyone else made $199K." He went on to say that he feels Saban will eventually return to the B1G and return a former great to NC level, to cement his legacy and remove any doubt that the SEC's talented recruits were what got him all his rings. I think the Saban-to-anywhere rumors that always pop up three days before the Iron Bowl are hilarious, but don't underestimate little man syndrome.
Along those same lines, the last season or 2 I've been pretty concerned about the Penn State job coming up in the next year or so. That always struck me as a job that would really intrigue Saban. Having said that, I think the way Paterno left and the ugly cloud over the program have all but ended that possibility. Ohio State was also an outside possibility. The only jobs in the region I could see him bothering with are Notre Dame or Michigan. Michigan seems pretty well set for the foreseeable future. I guess Notre Dame could be a possibility but I don't think Saban would be a big fan of the self inflicted recruiting restrictions that the ND places on its head coach. The only other college jobs I could see Saban bothering with is the Texas and an even bigger longshot the USC job. He just doesn't seem like a Big City/West Coast guy at all. If he doesn't take the Texas or Penn State jobs the only other 2 I would even be remotely concerned about as an Alabama fan are the Notre Dame and Michigan jobs.
This post was edited on 12/14/11 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 12/14/11 at 3:07 pm to H-Town Tiger
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check UT's record from 1984-1997 and get back to me if you think Mack has had little success.
With the talent that they get, they really should have more than 1 national championship in the past 40 years. They only have 4 all time and they've only won the Big 12 3 times. He's right, just haven't done much with all the talent they get. As of right now, I'm not sure they know who their starting quarterback is for next year.
Texas should be able to be competing for the national title every year and at least win their conference more than once every 5 years.
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ETA: While you're at it, check out the increase in revenue to the FB program and AD as a whole over that time period.
Marketing. I'm sure the dollars increased when they won in 2006. There's just a huge number of people in this state and if they didn't go to college (or even if they went to some other program a lot of times) they will buy and wear longhorn apparel. $ != success.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 3:22 pm to Monticello
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Why would Texas want Saban?
Yeah Tuscaloosa is much nicer than Austin and the Big 12 is a Beast compared to the SEC west
Posted on 12/14/11 at 3:38 pm to Govt Tide
Saban isn't as well off as some make him out to be. he's had a few financial clusterfricks in his day, some that are still being worked out.
He's certainly not cash poor, but he's also got a few ongoing situations that have and will continue to bleed him for cash well into the future. Among other things, He got his nose into some costly real estate developments that went belly up.
I would guess the timing isn't right for Saban to Texas given the BCSCG, but one would be crazy to think Saban to Texas couldn't happen.... If Texas offered 8-10 mil, I guarantee you he'd be gone.
He's certainly not cash poor, but he's also got a few ongoing situations that have and will continue to bleed him for cash well into the future. Among other things, He got his nose into some costly real estate developments that went belly up.
I would guess the timing isn't right for Saban to Texas given the BCSCG, but one would be crazy to think Saban to Texas couldn't happen.... If Texas offered 8-10 mil, I guarantee you he'd be gone.
This post was edited on 12/14/11 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 12/14/11 at 3:41 pm to JPLSU1981
UT has a better pool of coach groupies than Bama
Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:31 pm to BobBoucher
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Reasons Saban would choose Texas
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1. $$$ They can match anything Bama can.
2. Recruiting. One of the top 3 most talent-rich states with in-state loyalty thats rarely matched... The univeristy recruits itself prolly more than most.
3. Easier road to BCS titles. His great defenses would own the Big 12-2(or whatever it is/will be).
4. He is tired of the Hat beaten that arse...
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