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re: Sumlin to A&M. Different angle. Point blank question.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:14 pm to MaroonDontRun
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:14 pm to MaroonDontRun
What makes aTm so conservative besides the Corp is the student body that is attracted to that school. Most of the students are from smaller, more rural settings. Typically they were in public schools with low minority enrollment. That is a fact. Sumlin knows what he is getting into. If he wins, they will tolerate him. If he loses, it will get ugly fast.
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:18 pm to Bandits
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Most of the students are from smaller, more rural settings. Typically they were in public schools with low minority enrollment. That is a fact.
Link?
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:20 pm to LSU alum wannabe
quote:In all the debate about who to hire at A&M, among the fans at least, the point that he's black never came up. Lots of heated debate about who we should go after, and which of the up and comers was preferable if an established head coach could not be obtained, but the fact that Sumlin is black wasn't really part of the discussion. Hell, there were a lot of folks pushing the defensive angle who wanted Charlie Strong over Sumlin, or Kirby Smart, because he had experience runnning an SEC defense to go with head coaching experience.
Can you believe TAMU hired a black head coach?
And can you believe a black HC took his first "big time program" job at A&M?
When this was rumored I thought "no way". This poor guy will be on such a short leash. College Station is not a very liberal minded part of the world.
Any A&M people on here please explain how you feel I am off base. This is just my outsider perception.
The one real noticeable aspect about A&M hiring a black head coach is that the negative recruiters will have to change one of their primary talking points (about how racist A&M is), but that's just a beneficial byproduct of the hire, and not at all the reason he was hired.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:23 pm to Bandits
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Most of the students are from smaller, more rural settings. Typically they were in public schools with low minority enrollment. That is a fact
No it isn't. What makes A&M conservative is that most students are white and from upper middle class suburbs of Houston and Dallas.
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Sumlin knows what he is getting into. If he wins, they will tolerate him. If he loses, it will get ugly fast.
Sumlin knows what he is getting into. If he wins, we will build a fricking statue of him outside the stadium. If he loses, most will be expecting it and we will fire him within 4 or 5 years and move on the next guy, continuing the cycle.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 4:08 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Check your admission records. Most of your students are from rural towns. I count white-flight suburbs in that class. There is not link as schools don't publish that but take a look at the Texas-aTm football story in Texas Monthly. It backs up what I have said.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 4:15 pm to Bandits
Small rural towns in Texas no longer hold a significant % of the population, it's all suburbs and metro areas.
I am an Aggie who came from a small rural public HS in Texas and I was a distinct minority (outside the Ag department) 15 years ago, much less now... I also don't know why you think public schools are magically segregated, either. As mentioned, Brazos County, TX (home of Bryan/College Station) is the one county in all of the US that most closely resembles the demographics of America as a whole.
Overall ignorant and BS post by the OP... similar to saying everyone in Louisiana lives in a house on stilts in the swamp.
I am an Aggie who came from a small rural public HS in Texas and I was a distinct minority (outside the Ag department) 15 years ago, much less now... I also don't know why you think public schools are magically segregated, either. As mentioned, Brazos County, TX (home of Bryan/College Station) is the one county in all of the US that most closely resembles the demographics of America as a whole.
Overall ignorant and BS post by the OP... similar to saying everyone in Louisiana lives in a house on stilts in the swamp.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 4:19 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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Can you believe TAMU hired a black head coach?
And can you believe a black HC took his first "big time program" job at A&M?
When this was rumored I thought "no way". This poor guy will be on such a short leash. College Station is not a very liberal minded part of the world.
What the hell?
You actually equate not judging the character of a man by the color of his skin with having a liberal mind? You are hardcore ignorant. You are a symptom of what is wrong with society.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 4:23 pm to Bandits
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Most of your students are from rural towns. I count white-flight suburbs in that class.
This is idiotic. To counter it, I'm going to count kids from rural towns as not from rural towns, so there!
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take a look at the Texas-aTm football story in Texas Monthly
Putting aside the obvious flaws in citing an opinion piece in a monthly magazine as fact, the article in question refers to the origins of both schools and how the rivalry started. The roots of our school are undoubtedly rural.
From what I remember at the end of the article it also talks about how much more similar the schools are now even though neither school wants to admit it, in reference to academics and the student bodies of both schools.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 4:37 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Overall ignorant and BS post by the OP
You can look at this information on the higher ed site for TX. Many of the ISD were created to segregate. We have a bunch of ISD's with upper 90% white populations. Get educated; especially if you are are at one of the TX flagships.
This post was edited on 12/12/11 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 12/12/11 at 4:38 pm to Bandits
quote:Not an opinion piece. It uses historical documents to solidify its claims. Again, get educated. This ain't TAKS.
opinion piece
Posted on 12/12/11 at 4:39 pm to Bandits
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Check your admission records. Most of your students are from rural towns. I count white-flight suburbs in that class. There is not link as schools don't publish that but take a look at the Texas-aTm football story in Texas Monthly. It backs up what I have said.
I'm assuming this is a troll now.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 4:45 pm to Bandits
You are so wrong. Do you think if most school districts were gerrymandering that Quanell X wouldn't be raising holy hell from the rooftops?
And as an Ag from a small rural town I will tell you I was in the minority. Most students were from the DFW and Houston metroplexes
And as an Ag from a small rural town I will tell you I was in the minority. Most students were from the DFW and Houston metroplexes
Posted on 12/12/11 at 4:48 pm to Bandits
It is absolutely an opinion piece. In the title line it speculates "what this means for all of us." I remember him also talking about how there is a little bit of "Aggie" and "Longhorn" in all Texans. I'm sure nobody disagrees with that. There is history about the rivalry mixed in, but its still Paul Burka's own take on the rivalry.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 5:05 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Laffo at the rural town reference. I'm from a town of 2800 and I was a major minority to people from houston/dfw/san antonio etc. if you see someone in boots and a cowboy hat at A&M there is a very high chance that person was raised in the suburbs and is all hat and no cattle.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 6:42 pm to Greg09Ag
It's true. I expected A&M to be way more country than it was. It's still conservative however and will continue to be. This is a school where the students and fanbase were overwhelmingly favoring going to the SEC while the people in Austin were going on about how they hate the SEC, how it's the most backward part of the country and so on.
Anyways, one of our (black) players tweeted that Sumlin is black for sure because his team meeting started late.
Anyways, one of our (black) players tweeted that Sumlin is black for sure because his team meeting started late.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 11:35 am to SWCBonfire
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everyone in Louisiana lives in a house on stilts in the swamp.
Uh, that is a true statement, right? I've seen Swamp People, I know how they live down there...
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:13 pm to NCrawler
Actually a lot of people in Tejas do as well. Ever been to Sabine Pass or Galveston?
Posted on 12/14/11 at 4:46 pm to Bandits
76% of Texas A&M students associate their hometown with the Houston or Dallas Metro Areas.
That doesn't include the students from San Antonio, Austin or out of state.
Next myth?
That doesn't include the students from San Antonio, Austin or out of state.
Next myth?
Posted on 12/14/11 at 5:09 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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Any A&M people on here please explain how you feel I am off base.
I don't care what our coach looks like, as long as he can win.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 5:29 pm to relapse98
I would think that A & M, with it's military background, would be less color sensitive than other schools in the south.
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