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Stoops or Miles which is the better "yes" man
Posted on 12/22/09 at 9:54 am
Posted on 12/22/09 at 9:54 am
If all this crazy talk about Stoops or Miles to Dallas is true, who would be the better "yes" man. I think Miles would be the better "yes" man. Stoops seems he would want the spotlight more, and want more control in Dallas.
This post was edited on 12/22/09 at 9:58 am
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Posted on 12/22/09 at 10:17 am to lsutigerfan1976
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If all this crazy talk about Stoops or Miles to Dallas is true, who would be the better "yes" man. I think Miles would be the better "yes" man. Stoops seems he would want the spotlight more, and want more control in Dallas.
You are basing that Miles would be a "yes" man to the administration/owner based on
- he managed to write in the $1 more into his contract
- he is paid amongst the top 5 coaches in the nation
- in spite of all the furor by the media and the fans he remains unfazed and got raises for his coaches as well
- he chooses the co-ordinators and decides whom to elevate or not.
I would love to see what a "No" man can get done then.
I realize that the majority here think that he is a doofus for a coach - but please show some logic while making these threads.
Posted on 12/22/09 at 10:31 am to lsutigerfan1976
amazing how some "fans" ascribe "qualities" to Miles without really knowing him.
perception is reality as usual
perception is reality as usual
Posted on 12/22/09 at 11:50 am to CalTiger
So he has a good agent who duped two lame duck moron administrators in a negotiation and that makes him Mr. Independent?
I would say the bigger yes man would be the guy who couldn't tell Skip Bertman no when he was "asked" to fly with Skip to Dallas on the eve of the 2005 SECCG to beg the Cotton Bowl committee to let LSU in the Cotton Bowl in case we lost to UGA instead of maybe preparing for UGA and gaining an automatic Sugar Bowl birth.
I would say the bigger yes man would be the guy who couldn't tell Skip Bertman no when he was "asked" to fly with Skip to Dallas on the eve of the 2005 SECCG to beg the Cotton Bowl committee to let LSU in the Cotton Bowl in case we lost to UGA instead of maybe preparing for UGA and gaining an automatic Sugar Bowl birth.
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Posted on 12/22/09 at 1:35 pm to CalTiger
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but please show some logic while making these threads.
you are gonna have to leave tiger droppings to find this.
Posted on 12/22/09 at 1:45 pm to Maximus
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I would say the bigger yes man would be the guy who couldn't tell Skip Bertman no when he was "asked" to fly with Skip to Dallas on the eve of the 2005 SECCG to beg the Cotton Bowl committee to let LSU in the Cotton Bowl in case we lost to UGA instead of maybe preparing for UGA and gaining an automatic Sugar Bowl birth.
link?
Posted on 12/22/09 at 1:49 pm to The Rodfather
LINK
it was Thursday night but still prime prep time he could've used to try not lose by 3 TDs and sent a great message to the team that he expected to lose the game
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Taking a flier on Cotton
LSU makes special trip to convince officials it'd outrank Tide, Dawgs
08:09 PM CST on Friday, December 2, 2005
By BRIAN DAVIS / The Dallas Morning News
AT&T Cotton Bowl executives have been inundated with phone calls, e-mails and even slick, eight-page marketing plans from Georgia and Alabama as the two teams jockey to represent the Southeastern Conference in Dallas this January.
LSU, however, has taken bowl campaigning to a new, personal level.
LSU coach Les Miles and athletic director Skip Bertman flew to Dallas on Thursday night to persuade Cotton Bowl officials to pick the Tigers if they lose today's SEC championship game, according to a source who was at the meeting.
Dan Petty, chairman of the Cotton Bowl selection committee, would neither confirm nor deny the meeting took place.
But he said school officials have made an exemplary effort to outline why No. 3 LSU (10-1) would make a better selection than No. 13 Georgia (9-2) or No. 14 Alabama (9-2).
The matchup for the 70th AT&T Cotton Bowl Classic will be formally announced Sunday.
"They clearly don't intend, in my view, to lose the championship game," Petty said Friday. "But they are doing a prudent practice to develop a plan B or an alternative strategy if things don't work out."
LSU would clinch a spot in the more lucrative Bowl Championship Series with a win against Georgia at 5 p.m. today at the Georgia Dome. The Sugar Bowl, the most likely destination for the winner, has a $14.4 million team payout compared to the Cotton's $3 million payout.
An LSU spokesman did not return phone calls seeking comment.
"I have not really given a lot of thought to the bowl scenario, to be honest with you," Miles said at a news conference Friday to promote the SEC title game. "I am more concerned about this game, that we're playing Georgia. Hopefully, we'll take care of our own bowl scenario."
Assuming LSU wins today, Alabama is the leading candidate to face the Big 12's representative, No. 18 Texas Tech, in the Cotton on Jan. 2.
That would change if LSU loses, and if Miles and Bertman's passionate –and unusual – plea swayed the bowl's selection committee.
The pair arrived at Love Field on a private plane about 8:20 p.m. Thursday and reached the Cotton Bowl's offices about 20 minutes later. Miles and Bertman detailed how much the team had overcome in dealing with the effects of two hurricanes while winning the SEC West title, the source said.
Five members of the Cotton Bowl selection committee and two staff members were present, the source said.
Miles and Bertman left the Cotton Bowl offices, which are located off Mockingbird Lane near Interstate 35, about 10 p.m. and returned to Baton Rouge, La. LSU coaches and players flew to Atlanta on Friday.
"I had not heard about that, no," Alabama president Robert Witt said when told of the meeting. But he expressed confidence in athletic director Mal Moore's ability to present the Crimson Tide in the best possible light.
"What I'm staying focused on is what we can do of a positive nature," said Witt, who spent 35 years in the University of Texas system before going to Tuscaloosa, Ala. "I have great confidence in their judgment, and I'm very hopeful that we'll get the call on Sunday."
LSU fans may be wondering why Miles and Bertman would leave their team less than 48 hours before the SEC championship.
Miles said in the meeting that Thursday nights are reserved for family time, the source said. Miles told those present that he was not missing any team-related functions by flying to Dallas.
it was Thursday night but still prime prep time he could've used to try not lose by 3 TDs and sent a great message to the team that he expected to lose the game
Posted on 12/22/09 at 3:50 pm to Maximus
Maximus
so did Miles also "lie", then, too?
he apparently gave lots of thought to it, enough to fly to Dallas and lobby the Cotton.
so did Miles also "lie", then, too?
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"I have not really given a lot of thought to the bowl scenario, to be honest with you," Miles said at a news conference Friday to promote the SEC title game. "I am more concerned about this game, that we're playing Georgia. Hopefully, we'll take care of our own bowl scenario."
he apparently gave lots of thought to it, enough to fly to Dallas and lobby the Cotton.
Posted on 12/22/09 at 4:08 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
he's such an honest man, he would never lie or throw JJ under the bus for his own royal frickups, i'm so proud to have him and not that meanie liar saban!!!
Seriously, does anyone think there is another coach in major college football that would actually bow down to Bertman and fly away within 48 hours of the game to kiss arse for a bowl that you will play in if you lose this game? Thats the definition of yes man.
Seriously, does anyone think there is another coach in major college football that would actually bow down to Bertman and fly away within 48 hours of the game to kiss arse for a bowl that you will play in if you lose this game? Thats the definition of yes man.
Posted on 12/22/09 at 4:38 pm to Maximus
So he was in Dallas for an hour and a half?
Posted on 12/22/09 at 4:47 pm to drexyl
Miles to Dallas would be better for Dallas IMO (Considering Jerry Jones)
Stoops to LSU would be great for LSU.
Stoops to LSU would be great for LSU.
Posted on 12/22/09 at 4:52 pm to drexyl
I like Miles but that is prime Grade A bullshite....
Posted on 12/22/09 at 4:55 pm to drexyl
it was meaningless because he only wasted 3 hours of his time while letting his players know that he expected them to lose?
Posted on 12/23/09 at 11:05 am to Maximus
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Miles said in the meeting that Thursday nights are reserved for family time, the source said. Miles told those present that he was not missing any team-related functions by flying to Dallas.
Posted on 12/23/09 at 12:32 pm to Choctaw
That sends a great message to your team either way and of course Miles never lies.
Posted on 12/23/09 at 12:41 pm to Maximus
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That sends a great message to your team either way and of course Miles never lies.
So its either a "shitty message" or he's lying. alrighty.
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"They clearly don't intend, in my view, to lose the championship game," Petty said Friday. "But they are doing a prudent practice to develop a plan B or an alternative strategy if things don't work out."
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Posted on 12/23/09 at 12:41 pm to Maximus
Maybe the school wanted to make sure it got its money in the aftermath of Katrina?
Posted on 12/23/09 at 1:08 pm to Nearl
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"They clearly don't intend, in my view, to lose the championship game," Petty said Friday. "But they are doing a prudent practice to develop a plan B or an alternative strategy if things don't work out."
Said the guy who didn't pick LSU to be in his bowl game. He clearly wasn't just trying to be nice while laughing at our retarded administration behind their backs.
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Maybe the school wanted to make sure it got its money in the aftermath of Katrina?
So they drug their yes man head coach to politic.
Posted on 12/23/09 at 2:02 pm to Choctaw
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Thursday nights are reserved for family time, the source said. Miles told those present that he was not missing any team-related functions by flying to Dallas.
Not missing team related functions =/= not missing any bowl prep time
i.e. breaking down film, studying tendancies, game planning in general not that Miles is capable of any of that anyway
For the record I don't care who is a better yes man. I just know that Miles has everything Jones is looking for whatever that might be. Them Cowboys deserve a damn strong coach!
Posted on 12/23/09 at 8:49 pm to Maximus
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He clearly wasn't just trying to be nice while laughing at our retarded administration behind their backs.
clearly
Its pretty clear you're going to spin everything in this article due to your hatred for Miles.
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