re: Still puzzled with keeping CREGG as OL Coach.

He is a great OL coach but not a great recruiter. He is about to land a top 50 OL and the #1 player in the state for 2022 so now is not the time. He will be here at least another year and all O really needs to do is get an analyst under him to help him recruit. Problem solved.

Getting triggered because you don't like hearing the truth? You can debate all you want about how good he is from a development standpoint but there's no debate he's a horrible recruiter. Recruiting is 50% of the battle because you have to consistently replenish the ranks. If he's staying here he needs help recruiting because at this point he's a liability. Someone like Campbell you could put anyone on him and he'd probably sign with LSU.

Man, you're going to be upset if his extension that has been submitted to the board gets approved.

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Coached the best O line In the country one year ago and all of the O line returned to be coached by Cregg.

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How bout that development of the RT from 2019 to 2020? That’s just one example why Cregg is NOT a good on field coach. RT regressed SIGNIFICANTLY. That means he wasn’t be coached on fundamentals and technique.

If we’re hiring unproven coaches with NFL ties, how about hiring an NFL HOFer with LSU ties to teach the OL technique and fundamentals. Kevin Mawae.

I agree they were good but let's not pretend like Burrow didn't help that line out big time. Just maybe they progressed more when they got to NFL similar to the 1 year gap where Burrow made a historical jump in progression. Some guys take awhile to mature and the light to come on like you saw with Burrow.

Having a QB with his athleticism to shake off tackles, excellent pre-snap reads, getting rid of the rock etc. all plays into helping his OL. A terrible QB who just holds the rock forever and can't read a defense would make any OL look terrible. See the point?

Cregg's line was mediocre his first year likely from Grimes so you can give him a pass there. They were great last year. They were awful this past season. As for his recruiting, right now it's not up for debate he's bad at it. And just for reference some guys bleed P&G and you can put anyone on them to recruit them to LSU.

The guys he coached last year on Burrow's team regressed. Hard to say if it was Covid or his coaching. It's put up or shut up this season for him.

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I agree they were good but let's not pretend a great QB made that line look better than it was. Just maybe they progressed more when they got to NFL similar to the 1 year gap where Burrow made a historical jump in progression. Having a QB with his athleticism to shake off tackles, excellent pre-snap reads, getting rid of the rock etc. all plays into helping his OL. A terrible QB who just holds the rock forever and can't read a defense would make any OL look terrible. See the point? Cregg's line was mediocre his first year likely from Grimes so you can give him a pass there. They were great last year. They were awful this past season. As for his recruiting, right now it's not up for debate he's bad at it. And just for reference some guys bleed P&G and you can put anyone on them to recruit them to LSU.

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This entire post is from a negative at all costs perspective. You talk about P&G glasses? You have an ax to grind and it shows in every post you make about the O Line. You completely discount the fact that we ran the ball down Bama’s fricking throat to close out that game. Yes, CEH’s style was a part of that, but no RB is good enough to run on that D without great blocking. We know that from years of evidence. We ran on a terrific UGA defense in the SECCG. Our 2019 line made Curry look decent vs Oklahoma and we know now that he just isn’t. You just can’t bring yourself to admit that they played very well in the second half of 2019. They didn’t just all blow up in their rookie seasons. They were good here and showed it on the field.

I’m not Cregg’s biggest fan and if he hadn’t kept the line together for next season, I would have wanted him gone, too. But he has an opportunity to turn things around next year and land a great class, so we’ll see. If he doesn’t deliver, then it’s time to move on.

As for the recruiting, the problem isn’t the top guys we recruit in each class, but the others we take. We’ve landed some high quality guys like Bradford, Dumerville and Dillinger, so it’s just not accurate to say Cregg can’t recruit at all. We will probably get Campbell for next year, too.

The problem is that we only chase a small number of bigger fish per season and take too many lower rated development guys to fill out each class. Some of them, like Hill if reports are correct, turn out great. Some don’t. What we need is a change in philosophy to go after more of the upper echelon OOS guys harder and take any in-state guys who measure up to build depth. Part of this isn’t just on Cregg, but O and Raymond. The numbers and makeup of a class and how it is prioritized isn’t all on the position coach.

The bottom line is, we need to bring in at least two guys on the level of Dillinger or Campbell per class. Preferably, you want one 5 star can’t miss guy like Leigh and another on the level of those two. It looks like we are on track to have a class like that for 22, so let’s see if Cregg can deliver with the table set in his favor.

And I’m all for the idea of bringing in help on the recruiting front, as mentioned by someone else above. Lacouture has evidently been a big help with DL recruiting as a GA. Maybe it’s time to bring in someone under Cregg specifically to help out with OL recruiting.

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picks up his slack for his recruiting because he's awful at it.

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He’s about to land the #1 player in the state at 6:30 today. Yeah he’s just awful at recruiting

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Someone like Campbell you could put anyone on him and he'd probably sign with LSU.

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I know the family personally are you are, not surprisingly, DEAD arse WRONG.

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do you think that OL still wins the award without the best QB in college history behind them with 1st round talent at every skill position making plays? Every time clyde got the ball, he had to make a spin behind the line of scrimmage before he broke the run. Had burrow been a statue or clyde not been a generationally illusive back, I think that line is 3rd best at best in the SEC.

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Are you not willing to acknowledge that, while this was the norm early in the season, they actually improved dramatically as the season went on? Or that they were much better in the games when Charles played than in the games he had to sit out? It’s amazing that people just dismiss sitting the best player on the O Line for 1/3 of the games in 2019 having an impact.

Cregg hasn’t been great here. Player development has been inconsistent and, while he’s recruited some very good linemen, there haven’t been enough who fall into that category. However, dismissing any positive with excuses and blanket statements is just weak-minded binary thinking. The truth, as always, isn’t a simple yes or no, true or false. It’s somewhere in between. The mental gymnastics some of you perform to come to a binary answer that Cregg is 100% bad are ridiculous.

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I agree they were good but let's not pretend like Burrow didn't help that line out big time.

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How did Alabama's OL perform in 19 vs 20. They the same O linemen in the trenches. Same coaches.
Its called maturity.
Bet our line is much better next season. Since the entire line is coming back, that should establish us for for the future with experienced O linemen. It will give the younger guys an opportunity to mature and be ready when needed.