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re: Stability or potential?

Posted on 11/5/21 at 10:31 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/5/21 at 10:31 pm to
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But LSU in state talent is ridiculous

And Texas in state talent isn't ridiculous I suppose
Posted by GarTiger
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 11/5/21 at 10:31 pm to
Honestly, don't you think he's about maxed out ULL? I think back to Saban at MSU. He was a lot like Napier...second fiddle school and the second fiddle coach in the state. Above avg. record but nothing that was screaming "future GOAT". Then he got handed the keys to the Porsche and the rest is history.
Posted by GarTiger
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2019
2502 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 10:34 pm to
To be fair, that list is horrible! Mullen/ED/Mack Brown all 3 in top 15.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163106 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 10:35 pm to
He’s had facilities, staffing cash, and the alpha program in a talent rich state. What’s so different here ?
Posted by DTig
Member since Apr 2019
555 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 10:35 pm to
Jimbo = stability 9-3 record every year. Don't see contender potential for the natty based on his 12 years coaching record 115-35 or 9-3 average per year.
Posted by NCTiger2
Member since Jun 2021
549 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 10:35 pm to
Do we really know that those guys have a higher potential than Jimbo? Like he is one of 4 active coaches with a Natty. He’s a great recruiter and a former Saban assistant (which a lot people give Napier and Tucker credit for), he won a Natty as a coordinator (like Aranda) and he’s already been a head coach in the SEC. Checks a lot of boxes…
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10432 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 10:37 pm to
I know I’ll be an outlier for this, but I think the program needs stability right now. The “potential” choice is a huge risk, because the program is currently on a major downward projection.

It would be safer to bet on a very consistent coach who has a chance, albeit a low chance, at a natty, but who is going to be consistent in recruiting and winning most of the time… because then at least if we don’t get the natty we can reset in 5-7 years with a high potential choice and give him a totally loaded roster/pipeline….we will not be giving that to whoever takes this job now…
This post was edited on 11/5/21 at 10:38 pm
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
3008 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 10:39 pm to
You must be blind, look around, you don’t think this program needs stability right now.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163106 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 10:39 pm to
You’re right but still it’s short term thinking. Eventually the same apathy sets in when people realize he can’t beat the devil in Tuscaloosa either and he’s not exactly young enough to wait him out
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 10:40 pm to
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If Jimbo is his signature hire, AGAIN, then he's shown to be a terrible AD

I'm sorry, I must have missed your signature hire?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 10:48 pm to
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because then at least if we don’t get the natty we can reset in 5-7 years with a high potential choice

You think Jimbo is retiring in 5-7 years?

We aren't going to be firing Jimbo if we sign him
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 10:48 pm to
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I'm sorry, I must have missed your signature hire?

Listen, bubba, I was telling this board Les was arse since 2005 and O was an idiot in 2016. My record on calling shitty LSU coaches is perfect.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 10:51 pm to
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when people realize he can’t beat the devil in Tuscaloosa either and he’s not exactly young enough to wait him out

The oldest coach to win an NCAA championship was Bowden at 69. Saban is already 70. As good as he is, he might get 2 more. But they will become few and far between once recruits realize he can't promise them 4-5 years.
Posted by CAT
Central Arkansas
Member since Aug 2006
7351 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 10:53 pm to
I probably take Aranda over Jimbo but just by a little. I take Jimbo over the rest of your list. Jimbo gets crapped and I don’t understand why.
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