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re: Somebody explain the fascination the NFL has with mediocre college HCs

Posted on 1/7/19 at 5:49 pm to
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29868 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 5:49 pm to
have to agree, college vs pros is apples and oranges between coaching hungry college kids who listen to you vs spoiled millionaire premadonnas who DGAF about any of that rah rah for the team and your team mates shite

saban figured that shite out fast and went back to college with his tail between his legs.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 6:37 pm to
No one proven in college wants those NFL jobs, so NFL is stuck looking for second tier college coaches, NFL assistants and NFL retreads.

What's the upside unless you really hate recruiting? Leash is ultra-short.
This post was edited on 1/7/19 at 6:38 pm
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:29 pm to
quote:


There has not been one coach who was a career mediocre coach in college that turned out to be a success in the NFL.


Bill Walsh
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66342 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:54 pm to
NFL teams have adopted the College offenses more than ever.

College offenses also have figured some things out.

Passing games based on isolating athletes in space work in the NFL.

Plus non of the young QBs can run conplicated offenses
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
35348 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:12 pm to
It's all about the QB to most of them now. If they think you can coach up a QB, then you have a chance to get hired.

It's not a terrible way to go about it. If you can coach up a young QB on a rookie contract, then you're poised to have a good team if the rest of the organization can do their job and get the right players around the QB. With the money a good QB on a rookie contract frees up, it's very beneficial.

Then, if that's successful, you continue to develop that QB until he can become more of a force on his own. When that 2nd contract comes up, you feel better paying him more knowing he can take over games if needed, if that's how the development goes.

There's no fool proof way to hire a head coach, but being able to coach up a QB is a good place to start. Let all the other guys in the organization handle the rest of the stuff.
Posted by vegas-tiger
NV desert
Member since Dec 2003
2061 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:49 pm to
Kingsbury coached Mahommes, Case Keenum, Baker Mayfield, and even made Johnny frick up look good. Owner is swinging for the fence. Hit playoffs, or suck for 2 years, then cut ties with KK. 3 starting NFL QBs coached by the same guy in college. In what? 4 years, 5 years?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 8:03 pm to
The good college coaches don't want the jobs. The NFL is no longer the destination for most of them.
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9712 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 7:53 pm to
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The biggest difference between CFB and the NFL is the method of acquiring players. Success in CFB requires the ability to successfully recruit high schoolers. Remove that aspect from the equation and you can be left with a CFB coach that is great at game planning and the management aspects of coaching but is bad at recruiting. This is why you could theortically have someone that is a mediocre CFB coach have success in the NFL.



Why Saban wasn’t a good NFL head coach.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58035 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 12:08 am to
He was only there for two years which really isn't enough to say if he could have turned around Miami or not.
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 6:17 am to
They believe that people learn from their mistakes
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