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Posted on 1/7/15 at 8:11 am to gumbeaux
quote:
Les Miles has never "fired" a coach
Incorrect.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 8:11 am to clamdip
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a recruiting ninja who knows the area and can coach DL would be a plus. If only this board could find someone to suggest.

Posted on 1/7/15 at 8:12 am to ApexTiger
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When they realized that Chavis was making 1.3 and left for 1.7, they were getting pretty ticked the SEC is throwing around that much money for coordinators.
Have they seen the staff Harbaugh is putting together? They'll learn eventually
Posted on 1/7/15 at 8:16 am to ApexTiger
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read the PSU 247 site /thread on Shoop last night.
When they realized that Chavis was making 1.3 and left for 1.7, they were getting pretty ticked the SEC is throwing around that much money for coordinators.
They can thank bama
When bama hired saban and made him the highest paid coach in college ball before he ever coached a single game it set the wheels in motion for the coaches arms race. As a direct result and since that time we have seen the coaches arms race happen at the coordinator and position coaches. The head coaches do it to win and protect their big jobs. The way bama hired saban has had ripple effects through all of CFB from day 1 just look at how Petrino left the falcons or Harbaugh to Michigan. What gets lost is that it further damaged what was an already damaged amateur sport. As a result it has pretty much just become minor leagues for the pros.
And the schools that can't keep salary pace should perhaps just go 1AA for all intents and purpose. Sad but true
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 8:20 am
Posted on 1/7/15 at 8:22 am to MoreOrLes
WE better not fumble the ball on Shoop
The pickings are getting thin
The pickings are getting thin
Posted on 1/7/15 at 8:33 am to 756
If things fall through w shoop, theres still a few interesting options. I like Bill Clark as a fallback.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 8:36 am to beardedzeus
To kick it around since hypotheticals abound here....
If Shoop joins staff, keeps Raymond, and puts either Brick/Cap'n Caveman at the DL coach position, then who coaches LBs?
Right now, we don't even have an LB coach since Chavis was double-duty there. Would Shoop coach them? I know he is mostly a DB/Safeties position coach by experience.
Or does Miles/Shoop decide to shuffle others around on the staff to make room for a standalone LB coach slot? (which would obviously go to Mike Singletary)
If Shoop joins staff, keeps Raymond, and puts either Brick/Cap'n Caveman at the DL coach position, then who coaches LBs?
Right now, we don't even have an LB coach since Chavis was double-duty there. Would Shoop coach them? I know he is mostly a DB/Safeties position coach by experience.
Or does Miles/Shoop decide to shuffle others around on the staff to make room for a standalone LB coach slot? (which would obviously go to Mike Singletary)
Posted on 1/7/15 at 8:40 am to MoreOrLes
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When bama hired saban and made him the highest paid coach in college ball before he ever coached a single game it set the wheels in motion for the coaches arms race.
To be fair, LSU played a BIG part in starting this arms race back in '99 when they hired Saban from MSU and gave him $1.2M, a relative unheard of sum at the time.
From a Mitch Albom article at the time
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So please don't say you were surprised Tuesday when the guy finally bit on one of the lures in the water. To be honest, the only question I had when I heard that Louisiana State was going to make Saban the third-highest-paid college football coach in America was simple:
Why him?
No offense to the work Nick has done in East Lansing, but the guy hadn't exactly lit it up before this year. His record at MSU is 34-24-1. Take out this year's excellent 9-2 season and he's barely above .500. Does that put you right behind Hertz and Avis in the college football pecking order?
Does that get you shoulder-to-shoulder with Florida's Steve Spurrier and Florida State's Bobby Bowden, both of whom have national championship rings and are in the hunt for No. 1 every year?
Full article
Posted on 1/7/15 at 9:07 am to white beans
Its gonna really piss me off if we miss out on a guy like Shoop for something like not allowing him to bring a defensive assistant he wants.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 9:19 am to ItsThatDude12
quote:Probably a push move...O and Haley are pretty interchangeable. Frank Wilson and Brick Haley are the best recruiters on staff at LSU and are 2 of the best in the country at it. Not having O on the staff is not a detriment, but having him is an asset.
Hopefully brick bounces and we get Coach O
Posted on 1/7/15 at 9:35 am to clamdip
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Cap'n Caveman at the DL coach position

Posted on 1/7/15 at 9:38 am to Bunta
Yo , Bunta - what the hell is that ??
Posted on 1/7/15 at 9:43 am to bradwieser
GIF Dance Party - bradweiser , you rocked my mind ! 

Posted on 1/7/15 at 9:54 am to ChaseRichardsUncle
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Frank Wilson and Brick Haley are the best recruiters on staff at LSU and are 2 of the best in the country at it.
Frank Wilson and Corey Raymond are....Brick is mediocre.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 9:58 am to Bayoufightingtiger
"Chavis could have did more .."


Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:03 am to ChaseRichardsUncle
Where did the myth of brick being a top flight recruiter come from?
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:04 am to 1999
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Where did the myth of brick being a top flight recruiter come from?
No one in the country finishes 2nd as well as Brick.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:06 am to Ironhead985
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It definitely has gotten out of hand
Agreed, and where does it stop? Chavis was making $700k just 4 years ago, now he's at $1.7m.
Bottom line, I shouldve been a coach.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:07 am to 1999
brick isn't as bad for the amount of shite we give him and compared to other guys on the staff he does bust his arse. But to say He and O are interchangeable as recruiters is false
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