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re: Reason for Ensminger from my sauce
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:42 am to LSUTigKyl
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:42 am to LSUTigKyl
Interesting article - 2016
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He probably shouldn’t have forced his first offensive coordinator at Ole Miss, Noel Mazzone, to run a scheme — the Southern California offense — that Mazzone wasn’t familiar with.
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:43 am to LSUTigKyl
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Also said very few established OCs would walk into the current situation.
bullshite. In, fact total bullshite. W pay well and play in front of 100k fans, and could be a stepping stone for a lot of OC's.
What all of you are missing is that it is the prerogative of the HC in all CFB and Pro FB programs to craft and offensive and defensive philosophy that they believe it. This is "see spot run" simple. Seems like O and Ensminger want to run a pro-style offense and jell together. They both know if they don't win a lot, they are out. If O brings in Gilbert, and does not win, makes no difference, he is just as out.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:43 am to novabill
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had a lot of input last year when E was interim. Errbody knows this is O's motivation. Still wants to micromanage the O.
you mean those into the "groupthink" thing on here knows this. people that think for themselves know no such thing.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:43 am to LSUTigKyl
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Also said very few established OCs would walk into the current situation. TFWIW.
I wouldn't. Who wants to sign up to have their career ruined?
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:43 am to sicboy
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And why does Orgeron want so much input into the offense? He's his own worst enemy, and I don't understand why he doesn't get that.
He's paranoid and knows that offense is his weak point. He probably can't tolerate having a stranger that he can't control in charge of the offense. Ensminger is one of his boys and is completely under his control. O's just too paranoid and bone headed to realize the consequences. He can also use Ensminger as a scape goat much easier than a top tier OC. If Ensminger is promoted to OC, it would be apparent that O is starting to run scared.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:44 am to LSUAlum2001
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Don’t pretend all HCs just sit there without providing input.
Ed O ain’t all HCs. He’s a fricking DL coach who basically said he would recruit motivate and let his coordinators handle Xs and Os
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:44 am to LSUTigKyl
so apparently now Orgeron is some kinda offensive guru
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:44 am to LSUTigKyl
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Also said very few established OCs would walk into the current situation.
Very few are granting interviews
And of the one or two that did, want a written agreement granting autonomy to run their system. O wont agree, "cuz he da hed corch, and do tings hid way"
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:45 am to Geauxst Writer
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and could be a stepping stone for a lot of OC's.
Or could be a step back for them when we fail.
Meddling coach + new starters at every major skill position + terrible schedule. 2018 isnt going to be fun.
I think it is quite reasonable for someone to look at that situation and say, "Nah I'll stay here 1 more year".
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:45 am to Goldrush25
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I wouldn't. Who wants to sign up to have their career ruined?
you would be a fool not to accept the OC job at LSU. you assume that would ruing his career; bull shite. win games and you are looking at serious money and a HC offer or two.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:47 am to KLSU
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He probably regrets treating all of his players and staff members as if they were Warren Sapp — the big, grizzled defensive lineman Orgeron coached at Miami in the 1990s.
He probably shouldn’t have banged a bass drum up and down the hallways while his assistant coaches were trying to work, shouldn’t have meddled in position groups — like quarterback — that he knew nothing about.
He probably shouldn’t have forced his first offensive coordinator at Ole Miss, Noel Mazzone, to run a scheme — the Southern California offense — that Mazzone wasn’t familiar with.
yet he's learned from his mistakes.
that article deserves its own thread for "O should be able to name his QB" crowd. He's freely admitted he knows nothing about that
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 10:49 am
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:47 am to LSUAlum2001
Most head coaches have some expertise that makes their input relevant. Not O. He just wants an OC who will do what he wants to do.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:49 am to LSUTigKyl
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My source who told me way back at end of November that canada would be gone....
Is your source, hannagriff and ott? Pretty sure they said the same thing.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:50 am to LSU GrandDad
To go further - word is out that this gig does not come without meddling and that's it's a bad job under the current regime. A lot of toxicity around our program.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:50 am to LSUTigKyl
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O had a lot of input last year when E was interim. Canada is gone because O wouldn't stop getting involved. Now O can be involved again.
I think that's pretty obvious and really the only justifiable reason why SE would even be considered. Hey, it's O's job. If he wants to screw it up then let him. You have to let him to do what he thinks is best for the program.
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Also said very few established OCs would walk into the current situation. TFWIW.
I don't buy this. I guess it depends on what you consider established. With the money LSU pays coordinators, I think you garner interest from a lot of folks.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:51 am to The Pirate King
No they aren't my source. Canada and O did have something go down. Canada told O that he was a moron more or less. Aranda wanted out too but took the money. And I can tell you LSU doesnt view him as a future HC. They don't think he recruits well enough.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:54 am to LSUTigKyl
Breaking news here
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:55 am to LSUTigKyl
The man who drives my garbage pickup truck knows more about offense than Coach O
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:56 am to LSUTigKyl
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Canada told O that he was a moron more or less.
The truth hurts.
I'm surprised Rex Tillerson still has a job.
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