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re: potential dark horse coaching candidate

Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

Tom Herman's overachieving Houston team at home


Losing to Navy and SMU? I would call that underachieving. How can a team that was ranked #6 in the country lose Navy and SMU and struggle with Tulsa and UCF be considered an overachiever?
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

Playing is one thing. Winning is another.



You yourself, said how shitty a team SMU has been over the years. You posted his overall record, and I was pointing out that the overall record really may not be as bad as would appear when you consider the teams he has played. 6-14 and played six ranked teams. Take out those teams and I wonder what his record may have been.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

However, one win against a ranked mid-major does not support the claim that he is this great coach in the making.


I didn't say to hire the guy. I said if your last two choices for head coach of LSU are Tom Herman and Chad Morris it should be a no-brainer to hire Chad Morris in my opinion.
Posted by Lebowski
Dallas
Member since Oct 2013
3544 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

I think a Chad Morris is a hell of a coach. Great tactician that could run a high profile program. The only issue is he doesn't have enough skins on the wall.



Yet LSU would hire Orgeron???
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Yet LSU would hire Orgeron???


CEO has four national championship rings. The next one he wins he will have decide whether to wear it on his thumb or start on the other hand.
Posted by saint amant steve
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
5695 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

Take out those teams and I wonder what his record may have been.


6-10...He would be 6-10 against non-Power 5 teams, including a loss to FCS James Madison.

In short, it's nothing impressive.
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
6646 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:35 pm to
As a dline coach. His ring is the equivalent of Larry Porter's
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

6-10...He would be 6-10 against non-Power 5 teams,


Oh, so even if he wasn't playing ranked teams, he would not have replaced a loss with a win. OKAY !!!
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

As a dline coach. His ring is the equivalent of Larry Porter's


How many does Larry have?
Posted by beardedzeus
NOLA
Member since Mar 2006
4474 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

I think a Chad Morris is a hell of a coach. Great tactician that could run a high profile program. The only issue is he doesn't have enough skins on the wall.



that's not stopping some ppl from clamoring for Orgeron...
Posted by magicman0001
Orange, Texas
Member since Dec 2008
1157 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 3:46 pm to
Forget the down votes. I 100% agree with you. Of course, how good he'll become remains to be seen, but he's definitely been impressive so far.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16207 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 4:00 pm to
sometimes it's more about the man than it is about the resume. Sometimes you have to look beyond the resume and make a projection based on the man himself. Maybe this guy fits into that category. That's what interviews are for.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79845 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 4:05 pm to
Based on 1 head to head game?
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

Based on 1 head to head game?


If you somehow got that from the post you replied to, why didn't you also get this?

quote:

He has played TCU and Baylor both years. Including those two teams he has faced 6 ranked teams(TCU was not ranked this year). The last time he played a ranked team, he won against the #11 team in the country. Not too bad for someone who coaches at SMU.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79845 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

He has played TCU and Baylor both years. Including those two teams he has faced 6 ranked teams(TCU was not ranked this year).


OK

quote:

The last time he played a ranked team, he won against the #11 team in the country. Not too bad for someone who coaches at SMU.


and the 5 times before that he lost.

And that 1 game you pointed out was the head to head vs Houston.
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 5:54 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

and the 5 times before that he lost.



It is called improving your program. Better than winning the first one last year and losing all the rest.

He also went 2-10 last year and is 4-4 this year. Again that shows his program is progressing and not regressing.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79845 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

It is called improving your program. Better than winning the first one last year and losing all the rest.

He also went 2-10 last year and is 4-4 this year. Again that shows his program is progressing and not regressing.


I know SMU had a couple losing seasons before he took over, but before that they were a consistent 7-8 game winning program. 4-4 isn't exaclty vastly esceeding the program's limitations. June Jones went 8-5 in his second season and the team was in way worse shape when he took over.

Anyway, the way you haev talked about Tom Herman, it is crazy you are into Cam Morris.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
35109 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 8:11 pm to
I was skeptical of Morris, but after hearing him locally interviewed a half dozen times and the way they've played, he's won me over

He's very down to earth, is an offensive genius, and knows the texas HS coaches like the back of his hand

I would be fine with him, however this is only if Fisher and Herman say no
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 8:14 am to
quote:

6-10...He would be 6-10 against non-Power 5 teams, including a loss to FCS James Madison.

In short, it's nothing impressive.


taking a team that has never known success and making them successful is the definition of success.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 8:17 am to
quote:

jbraua


quote:

Chad Morris.


youre a few weeks late bro, but good thinking..

i find it comical that people denounce his high school success, yet 2 successful head coaches in the SEC west are former Head High School coaches..

He would be on my short list.. Not Holgorson or Mora
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