re: Porter Not Getting Memphis Job

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and don't give me that Assistant HC crap

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Too late, and it's not "crap," and you know it. For better or worse, he does work w/Miles on the sidelines, throughout game weeks during the season, and is a vital member of LSU's staff 24-7-365.

And don't blow off Porter's Chief Recruiter position, either. Recruiting is kind of important to schools such as LSU, esp. in the SEC and at all colleges.

Can't figure why you and moneyg can't read or understand that we agree on why Porter's not qualified to be LSU's next OC (that suggestion came from someone else, btw). Scroll up and you can find it.

As far as being qualified to be LSU's next head coach, I said: Not now, but in the next 4-5 years. How hard is that to comprehend?

And I don't give a flying-frick what you and SFP "correctly" state in other threads, "if Porter ever wants to be more than a RB coach then he needs to leave LSU." Of course I agree w/that, as most others here would, but I can't match your arrogance and your absolute certainty about being "correct" years before something happens. I'm not debating this w/you, 'cos its very likely...

Once again, take another look at my post, below.
"I also don't think he has enough experience now to be an OC or head coach at LSU...He's too close to Miles for our fan-base, he needs to be an OC for a few years (though even as a head coach at a school like Memphis would make up for that)..."

You guys can now have this thread as well, so have it out among yourselves. Focusing on my posts, and with the race-card in (or not) in play, it's gonna be a real challenge, but I'm sure you'll figure it out someday. I'm just not going to be a part of it. Good ruck.

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Too late, and it's not "crap," and you know it.

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Assistant HC is a cerimonial title that allows them to justify a higher salary for a valued position coach. If we can't agree on that then we are at an impass. Miles' main sideline consulant had been Hensen not Porter. Now that Hensen is gone by all accounts it is Stud.

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And don't blow off Porter's Chief Recruiter position, either

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I'm not. Recruiting is the only reason Porter gets paid what he gets paid. He is in the same boat as Trooper Taylor and Ed O.

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Can't figure why you and moneyg can't read or understand that we agree on why Porter's not qualified to be LSU's next OC (that suggestion came from someone else, btw).

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I don't believe for second LSU wouldn't hire a black HC.

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As far as being qualified to be LSU's next head coach,

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At a minimum he needs to a successful coordinator at a BCS school. He probably needs to be a coordinator at a lower level school in order to get the crack at coordinator at a BCS school.

Not so fast my friend.

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OK, I'm back to the debate, hoping this can be a a mutually respectful exchange...
So what's the consensus on being a RB coach? You guys can't seem to agree:

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"RB coach is pretty much the lowest coach on the totem pole. It isn't a very difficult job compared to other coaching positions."

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and...

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"Assistant HC is a cerimonial (sic) title that allows them to justify a higher salary for a valued position coach. If we can't agree on that then we are at an impass."

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So, which one is it?
Most of the time, the least important position coach spends the game in the booth (such as QB coaches, which we don't have, but like many teams, the OC is unofficially in charge of them).

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"Miles' main sideline consulant had been Hensen not Porter. Now that Hensen is gone by all accounts it is Stud."

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I never said Porter was the "main guy" on the sidelines now. I said: "For better or worse, he does work w/Miles on the sidelines, throughout game weeks during the season, and is a vital member of LSU's staff 24-7-365."

BTW, Cash, I agree w/you--to a point--regarding Porter's AHC title. It's not always ceremonial (depending on the school). I've covered teams and sometimes the AHC is a former, and usually older, head coach who doesn't want to be the main guy anymore.

Look, it doesn't make me more knowledgeable or right about everything, but I did get paid to cover Porter's work w/Miles at Okla. St. and LSU. During game weeks, at practices and in the off-season, Porter & Miles worked very well together and Porter had a lot of impact. Having said that, how Porter didn't make sure that timeout was called much earlier is beyond my understanding.

And to TexTiger82, regarding your point:
"The doghouse....I don't know if it was him or Miles, but shite, man...play your talent."
I totally agree, and it's all Miles. He's old-school Big-10 when it comes to having a short-leash (esp. when it comes to fumbles by RBs) w/some players. He's punished Williams, for fumbling near the goal-line in the Spring game, Flynn (when he threw a pick as a junior), and LaFell (then a freshman), for running the wrong route at Auburn in 2006. Happened also w/J. Vincent and others. Puzzling that J. Lee apparently still doesn't even have a leash with Miles...

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He'll never be a coordinator here.

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Never say never.