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re: Pete Golding and Cortez Hankton...
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:20 am to TxTiger758
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:20 am to TxTiger758
Pete Golding would be an absolutely outstanding hire. Period, end of sentence. If you think otherwise, you are wrong
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Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:21 am to SammyTiger
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20th in scoring
They’re giving up 20.2 ppg.
ND is 9th at 18.3 ppg.
It appears Bama still has an elite defense despite what the posters on this board think.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:21 am to DBG
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Golding also started when Alabama switched to being an offensive team
Its arguable that started with Kiffin before Golding got there.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:23 am to deaux
Why is Notre Dame your measuring stick?
A&M gave up 15.9 PPG. They played in the same division.
Arguably A&M schedule was harder because the played Alabama’s offense and Alabama got to play theirs.
LSU only gives up 25.3 wow we must be close to elite.
A&M gave up 15.9 PPG. They played in the same division.
Arguably A&M schedule was harder because the played Alabama’s offense and Alabama got to play theirs.
LSU only gives up 25.3 wow we must be close to elite.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 9:26 am
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:26 am to SammyTiger
I used ND as the measuring stick merely to show the difference between the 9th ranked scoring defense and 20th is less than 2pts.
No one is arguing anything about A&M’s defense?
Fact is, Bama is 8th in total defense and missed out on a top-10 scoring defense by less than 2ppg.
Anyone who doesn’t want Golding is a moron.
LSU is 61st in total defense. But sure, compare that context to Bama being 8th.
some of you clearly lack critical thinking skills.
No one is arguing anything about A&M’s defense?
Fact is, Bama is 8th in total defense and missed out on a top-10 scoring defense by less than 2ppg.
Anyone who doesn’t want Golding is a moron.
LSU is 61st in total defense. But sure, compare that context to Bama being 8th.
some of you clearly lack critical thinking skills. This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 9:27 am
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:27 am to SammyTiger
Alabamas offensive efficiency:
2013- 8th
2014- 4th
2015- 20th
2016- 8th
2017- 8th
2018- 2nd
2019- 2nd
2020- 1st
2021- 2nd
Kiffin started in 2014 and the offenses were very good. But there’s a very obvious leap starting in 2018, the year Golding became full time DC(he was co-DC in 2017).
2013- 8th
2014- 4th
2015- 20th
2016- 8th
2017- 8th
2018- 2nd
2019- 2nd
2020- 1st
2021- 2nd
Kiffin started in 2014 and the offenses were very good. But there’s a very obvious leap starting in 2018, the year Golding became full time DC(he was co-DC in 2017).
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:28 am to Rtowntiger
Wtf makes any of you idiots think Hankton would be a home run hire. Please show me one thing he’s done that screams successful OC.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:28 am to DBG
people just need to accept that the absolute suffocating defense is no longer a thing in college football
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:29 am to tigersquad89
No one wants Hankton as the OC, idiot
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:30 am to BilJ
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people just need to accept that the absolute suffocating defense is no longer a thing in college football
Exactly. UGA was an exception this year, but it’s mainly because they still run a traditional type of ball control offense. Plus, they played a shitty schedule.
The 2011 Alabama and LSU type defenses are a thing of the past due to the offensive change in the game
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:34 am to TxTiger758
I'm not super crazy for a Golding hire but he makes plenty sense. I think he would make a move to LSU to get out from under Saban. His scheme, full control, etc. Makes him look way better on the resume or way worse if he's not as advertised. I do think it's fair to question how good of a DC he really is since he's under Saban.
Some things I've noticed in him is he's a very good schemer despite what this board thinks. I believe Golding's issues lie into fundamental coaching like tackling which really shouldn't be an issue if your position coaches are good doing their job. He's an outstanding recruiter and comes from a fantastic coaching tree. I'm not crazy about the hire if it happened but I understand it if it's made.
Some things I've noticed in him is he's a very good schemer despite what this board thinks. I believe Golding's issues lie into fundamental coaching like tackling which really shouldn't be an issue if your position coaches are good doing their job. He's an outstanding recruiter and comes from a fantastic coaching tree. I'm not crazy about the hire if it happened but I understand it if it's made.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:35 am to DBG
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But there’s a very obvious leap starting in 2018, the year Golding became full time DC(he was co-DC in 2017).
Pruitt was still the DC in 2017. Golding was not hired until December 2017. He was co-DC with Tosh Lupoi in 2018. Golding took over as DC in 2019.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:36 am to CapstoneGrad06
You’re right. 
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:37 am to tigersquad89
You make some of the dumbest posts on this board and that's saying quite a lot.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:40 am to ehidal1
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Plus, they played a shitty schedule.
They rode that shutting down of Clemson hard, but that became less and less impressive. Don't get me wrong, they're a good D with a ton of future NFL players....and still got thrashed when they went up against comparable offensive talent. The cards are just stacked against the D.
This is what the remaining max johnson crowd is missing as well when they speak of his stats against LSU historical numbers to try and say he's good. You can't compare the 2 eras on solely stats because its so juiced now.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:40 am to SammyTiger
quote:part of that is SEC offenses changing over the last few years.
thjnk There is a perception that he underachieved. He defenses are very good but not elite.
Alabama had had a top 10 Defense pretty much since 2009 at least.
And he hasn’t produced 1 top 10 defense
It's just a different football world we live in now.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:42 am to deaux
Again, yards don’t win games.
You maybe should use some critical thinking skills.
You’re arguing the difference between 20th and 9th is about 2 PPG.
Well the difference between 20th and 54th is about 5. We aren’t dealing in huge numbers on average.
You can’t say this defense has been elite this year
You maybe should use some critical thinking skills.
You’re arguing the difference between 20th and 9th is about 2 PPG.
Well the difference between 20th and 54th is about 5. We aren’t dealing in huge numbers on average.
You can’t say this defense has been elite this year
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 9:43 am
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:42 am to BilJ
Max wouldn't be averaging 100 yards passing in the Miles era when you could play more defense. Max simply was not that talented and was downright bad in a lot of situations. Classic example of stats do not tell the entire story with a player.
We had a run of some pretty awful QBs in Miles era not sure where he'd rank. Somewhere above a Jennings of Harris but definitely below a Mettenberger.
We had a run of some pretty awful QBs in Miles era not sure where he'd rank. Somewhere above a Jennings of Harris but definitely below a Mettenberger.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 9:45 am
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:44 am to SportTiger1
It was a different world in 2017 too and they had the #1 defense.
I just Don’t think you can draw a line in the sand at 2018 and say “this is when offenses got good.”
I just Don’t think you can draw a line in the sand at 2018 and say “this is when offenses got good.”
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:45 am to TxTiger758
Golding is not leaving Bama for a lateral position.
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