re: Orgeron hiring from an Alabama fan

Thank you for refraining from trolling. We have a large faction of fools that are ecstatic about this hire, and they love having their idiocy supported.

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They'll be doing this again in 3-4 years.

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We're going to need a remarkable coach to repair the damage that this hire will cause to the program. Alabama was incredibly fortunate to acquire Saban, in their time of need. I don't anticipate us being as fortunate.

Classy post...

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Can the man run the day to day for a major college football team? Probably not he barely speaks English

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This is a great point that people just aren't getting. This is also why he failed at ole miss and USC never seriously considered him for their head coaching position. There's no way anyone could be impressed by listening to him speak at his introductory press conference.

Of course Alabama fans are elated. The entire SEC is laughing their asses off. Herman would have kept the midget up at night, bet he slept like a baby last night knowing a real potential threat had been staved off by the idiots that run LSU

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Probably not he barely speaks English

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This has no basis in fact. He has an accent. Beyond that, he has no problem communicating. He seems to be very good at ad libbing without the pauses, the "uh's", the "you knows". He's looks very comfortable before the press, unlike the man who hired him.

Of course Bana fans are happy with LSU hiring Orgeron.

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He's masking his flaws with X's and O's by hiring the best coordinators in America. What a brilliant concept. Just hire people who are smarter than you. What do you do when they leave for a head coaching job?

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It worked for Reagan

It's the decision making process that truly is the issue.

I think O will have every opportunity to win the fan base over but King & Alleva are terrible for LSU.

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I'm sure I'll receive a shite load of downvotes for my opinion, but whatever.

Ed Orgeron has the LSU team playing harder than

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TideSaint: Thank you. Objectivity is not normally a characteristic of an Alabama fan but neither is agreement with an Alabama fan from an LSU fan characteristic either. Most of those who will down vote you likely never played football, surely never coached football and absolutely never have been an executive in a major corporation responsible for hiring, firing and millions in sales and profits. They just as illogical (and maybe some of the same) as those who came out of the woodwork last year to support keeping Miles.

This entire situation was set up last year when Alleva, Alexander and company did not fire Miles followed by a proper coaching search. That was a major cluster and no need to explain or waste more time on that. Assuming I was Alleva, the Wisconsin game would have been the last straw. I would have fired him before he got back on the bus at the stadium and told him to find his own ride back to BR or wherever he wanted to go. There in front of my eyes was a man who I wanted to fire, got overruled, gave him a chance based on certain factors which he agreed but had downright lied to me. Personally my wife and I were at that game and it was no different than the 2011 NC game.
So you have a coach that should have been fired, and AD who has no clue what to do, a liberal university president who talks about shutting down LSU football during state budget discussions and a liberal governor who is prophesizing doom and gloom to justify raising taxes so he can have more taxpayer money to spend and a BOS full of political appointees trying to read political correctness. Note: Check the price of a barrel of oil during the budget discussions as compared to now and calculate Louisiana's take from its increase. Anyone with a brain knew that oil would not stay below $30 and today the difference is approxametely a +150 million that they won't mention but surely will spend.
Another game is lost to a poor Auburn team, large outside contributors have had enough and Miles is finally fired. That had to be done before anything else.
Now get back to the objective, win football games. To do that it takes players and coaches functioning as a team with no real time to make massive changes to the system. That is what spring training and pre-season is for. EO is made interim coach and he fires Cameron who was team problem #2. The team goes thru the normal I love Miles emotions but really they know it had to happen. We saw the problems once a week, their experience them everyday. They know.
The next game do you get a lay down by players? No, they are playing smart, hitting very hard and having fun. Gee, what a surprise. Yes they lost to Alabama but that was the hardest hitting by an LSU team that I have seen in a very long time. Offense was still a problem but we all knew that but no one can expect much more against that Alabama defense. It is special.
They dominate Florida but shoot themselves in the foot in the red zone, then come back quickly and destroy A&M.
For a team to lose a so called "beloved" coach and without blinking come back and play at a much higher level is not divine intervention, it's leadership.
I won't get into Jimbo or Herman is better. That is a waste of time and no one knows that or can prove that. So we have EO as interim with Jimbo and Herman on the radar. Take off the purple and gold glasses and ask the question: I am a top coach so should I take the LSU job with the following factors?
- Salary $6 million or greater.
- A mother load of a recruiting base.
- Great facilities but not the best.
- One of if not the greatest stadiums to play college football in the country.
- A political climate that is questioning athletic spending vs academic even though athletic funds are not tax payer funded but from outside revenue.
- Boss is an incompetent who threw a lacrosse team under the bus with no evidence. Mishandled a football coaching change last year and may or may not be fired himself.
- A politically correct left wing university president who used the football team and a threat that the season could be cancelled in order to play political Russian roulette with the Louisiana Legislature over funding.
- A basically clueless BOS who hired a politically correct university president, thinks he does a great job and gives him a vote of confidence in their last meeting.
- An unproven governor in an office that historically has interjected itself into LSU Athletics.
Having gone thru these type of career decisions myself I would say that as a young Tom Herman I would not place a risk a high potential future on that job and I would prefer Texas. As Jimbo I maybe have 10 years left, my employer has treated me well, LSU did not want me when they hired Miles, I have beaten SEC competition 8 of 9 times, I have owned the State of Florida for the past 5 years, I have an excellent recruiting base and I can reach the NC easer from the ACC than the SEC West.
So LSU has EO who is an excellent recruiter, very quickly earned the respect of his players and they delivered, can make the right decisions ala fired Cameron. The remainder we will see. Can he continue to surround himself with highly competent assistants? Can he deliver on recruiting? Does that deliver wins next season and onward? No one knows and we will see but on thing for sure, I would rather have this situation than Les Miles and his Limbo mentality.