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On3: Dan Mullen met with Syracuse AD John Wildhack on Wednesday

Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:27 pm
Posted by Partha
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:27 pm
https://twitter.com/On3sports/status/1728169662582849624
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@On3sports
NEWS: Former Florida, Mississippi State head coach Dan Mullen met with Syracuse AD John Wildhack on Wednesday,
@TommySladek reports


Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:30 pm to
He would do well there IMO
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:37 pm to
He probably would.

Gets to go back close to where he grew up and get another big payday.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:40 pm to
The mediocrity and low seasons here and there is perfectly acceptable for a program like Syracuse. And he will have the 10-3 type year occasionally I think when things break right and he really molds a QB
This post was edited on 11/24/23 at 8:41 pm
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:43 pm to
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The mediocrity and low seasons here and there is perfectly acceptable for a program like Syracuse. And he will have the 10-3 type year occasionally I think when things break right and he really molds a QB


If he is a motivated Dan Mullen, he will do well.

If he's unmotivated, I think the floor at Cuse will be lower than at his previous stops, which may not end well.

Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:47 pm to
Maybe so. I’ve always thought highly of Mullen as an X’s and O’s guy and developer of talent. I think he’d be a really high end OC at either level but he probably feels like he’s above that.

Syracuse doesn’t provide the floor of front 7 recruits like State had but there’s probably a whole lot less outside noise than Florida at both, and he doesn’t seem like he handles that well. For the level of program Cuse is I think it would be a great hire, better than taking a shot on some MAC flavor of the month
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:51 pm to
Yeah but it was weird how he was nosediving and damn near trolling Florida at the end there.
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:52 pm to
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For the level of program Cuse is I think it would be a great hire

They definitely could do worse, and probably not do better, at least not obviously better (hypothetically they could hire a young up and comer who is the real deal but that's highly unlikely).

If he does well, its a HR. If not, no big deal as it would be the same as hiring some other C-USA/MAC guy who doesn't get it done.
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:53 pm to
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Yeah but it was weird how he was nosediving and damn near trolling Florida at the end there.

That's when he was unmotivated.

If he brings that same level of effort to Cuse I think it could be a total shite show.

Still worth the risk for Cuse, because it's Cuse.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:55 pm to
I was leaning towards he wouldn't be interested in the Syracuse job. I stand corrected.
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:59 pm to
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Gets to go back close to where he grew up and get another big payday.

Doesn’t he already live in Connecticut?
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6250 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:59 pm to
I wouldn't hire a coach out of the TV booth, especially a coach who wasn't overly successful at his last job.
Had he done some analyzing for Saban (or whomever), then sure.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 9:02 pm to
That would be a mistake to take that job. Something better will come along this year or next. Syracuse is a no win dead end job.
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7298 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 9:07 pm to
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Doesn’t he already live in Connecticut?


I think he lives near Lake Oconee
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7298 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 9:08 pm to
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That would be a mistake to take that job. Something better will come along this year or next. Syracuse is a no win dead end job.



That's why it's probably a good place for him.

Low expectations so he won't have to deal with much pressure or recruit hard.

He could win 6-7 games most years and occasionally win 8-9 and would be fine.
Posted by rolltide32
Fort Payne, AL
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 9:22 pm to
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That's why it's probably a good place for him.

Low expectations so he won't have to deal with much pressure or recruit hard.

He could win 6-7 games most years and occasionally win 8-9 and would be fine.


It's the Mississippi State of the ACC. Perfect fit
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62209 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 9:28 pm to
For sure. I think a lower stress job might prevent that (and I don’t know all the inside details of what happened at the end at Florida) but those are questions you would want answered. It was not pretty
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
25875 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 9:31 pm to
Mullen would be a homerun coaching hire for the Orange. He wasn't on my list because I never thought he would want the job.
Posted by McNet
Member since Nov 2020
274 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 9:44 pm to
Bottom of the barrel Power 5 job. Freeze your arse off, shovel snow, get recruiting scraps, play in empty old dome, watch some basketball and lacrosse, get a paycheck for 4 yrs and move on.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
25875 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 9:59 pm to
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Low expectations so he won't have to deal with much pressure or recruit hard.

Where does the perception that Mullen doesn't recruit hard come from?

Here are his recruiting rankings at Florida:
2018- 14
2019- 9
2020- 9
2021- 12
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