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re: OFFICIAL: Jimbo Fisher has resigned from FSU and accepted the Texas A&M job

Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38830 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:53 pm to
Boston College < Arkansas
Clemson = Bama
Louisville < Auburn
NC State < LSU
Syracuse < Miss St
Wake < Ole Miss
Miami > South Carolina

But yea....I'm supposed to believe that the ACC where Jimbo coached is better than the SEC West?
Posted by tigerfan84
Member since Dec 2003
23590 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:53 pm to
Besides Clemson and Miami (this year) who else in the ACC is any good?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115142 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:53 pm to
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However, in his first year CEO could pull off a 10 win season. That is nothing to bat an eye at.


We fired the last guy for only winning 9-10 games. Why have the expectations changed?

Don't tell me it's a rebuild because we were told it wasn't a rebuild until we lost to troy.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104801 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:53 pm to
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If you actually believe that, then why do you prefer fisher to orgeron when money isn't considered?

Because he was the more qualified coach during the hiring process


But once the hire was made, we have to judge the coaches from the point of hire to see if the true better decsion was made. It is a very very very simple concept



Would Dabo Swinney or Rich Rod have been a better hire back in 2008? Clearly, the answer then is Rich Rod. However, once the hire is made, you judge the two coaches from the point of the hire.


Would anyone now argue who the better hire was between swinney and Rich rod from 2008-now
Posted by GhostofJackson
Speedy Teflon Wizard
Member since Nov 2009
6917 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:54 pm to
Satan lost to UAB and ULM. So what?
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:55 pm to
facepalm



Any LSU fan shitting on this hire is in complete denial. A&M got our guy because we went cheap and lazy
Posted by texastigerr
Texas
Member since Jan 2005
8749 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:55 pm to
That's because it was.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115142 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:55 pm to
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Satan lost to UAB and ULM. So what?


Hate to break it to you buttercup, but Oregeron is not Saban
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171912 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:55 pm to
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Satan lost to UAB and ULM. So what?


I wish you fricking idiots would stop comparing Ed fricking orgeron to the greatest college head coach of all time.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171912 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:56 pm to
frick Joe alleva
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9877 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:56 pm to
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Because he was the more qualified coach during the hiring process


So the things that made one the better coach over the other before the hiring process just completely go away once a hire happens, and everyone starts back over at 0?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104801 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:56 pm to
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You make hires based on previous success.
100% yes

quote:

So this whole "wait until it blows up" process doesn't prevent you from seeing how lopsided the two hires were at the time they were made.


You judge the actual success of the hire by the results from the hire forward though.


If O continues to have a better record from 2017-whenever than Jimbo does from 2017-whenever, then he was actually the better hire correct?

Or will you actually say you wanted Jimbo, even though we have the coach with the better record from the point of hire.....
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:56 pm to
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The only years that matter when comparing 0 to jimbo for an lsu fan should be 2017-the future

Once the hire was made, What they did prior is irrelevant now.


Is this just a way to justify the O hire?

You cant even compare these 2 as coaches. This is like comparing an NFL team to a high school JV team


This post was edited on 12/1/17 at 12:57 pm
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
37279 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:57 pm to
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I don't think I need to tell you the problem with hiring a coach whose most favorable attribute is how easily he can be fired.







Holy shite that's an awesome way of putting it. I laughed irl
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66232 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:57 pm to
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Any LSU fan shitting on this hire is in complete denial. A&M got our guy because we went cheap and lazy



It is a great hire on the surface but if A&M continues to miss the 10 win mark then they're paying 7.5 million a year for results than aren't much better than Sumlin delivered.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:57 pm to
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Satan lost to UAB and ULM. So what?


Yeah, keep on mentioning two bad losses over a career that spans 20+ years and includes multiple conference and national championships.

Orgeron had two historically bad losses in the span of 3 weeks, not to mention his career at OM.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
13945 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:57 pm to
Good hire, they had the right amount of money and the right timing to get it done.. Should spice up the "rivalry" that hasnt materialized between us..
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104801 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:58 pm to
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So the things that made one the better coach over the other before the hiring process just completely go away once a hire happens, and everyone starts back over at 0?

When rating the hire yes.


If O has a better record from 2017-2025 then Jimbo has from 2017-2025, then he was actually the better hire.

You would disagree? That is illogical
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23145 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:58 pm to
A&M doesn’t care about money....they are desperate for results in a place they doesn’t make them happen
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
39638 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:58 pm to
God Bless Scott Woodward
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