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My own little top list for Nebraska
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:32 pm
People say we should hire the best available. I have spent a lot of time research who these best available people actually are and the majority of the highly proven coaches are all well into their 50's already and most in their 60's.
Let's examine who these elite proven head coaches are:
1) Chip Kelly - turns 52 years old. He will remain in the NFL to try and win at an elite level. However, he has not won anything at the highest level of college football or the NFL besides a conference title. He came up short in a national title game.
2) John Harbaugh - Super Bowl winning coach. NFL guy likely to stay in the NFL. If he goes to the college game, it will likely be to USCw, but that is likely not to happen. In his 50's.
3) Bill Belichick - Turns 64 next year. NFL guy that will go down as a legend.
4) Steve Spurrier - out of date.
I'm not going to keep going over NFL guys as that will take too much time to type out.
5) Nick Saban - nearing retirement.
6) Mark Dantonio - nearing retirement.
7) Urban Meyer - not available.
8) Art Briles - old.
9) Bill Snyder - retirement age.
10) Gary Patterson - oil money keeping him at TCU
11) Bob Stoops - past his prime.
12) Jimbo Fisher - young but not going to get him hired away.
13) Brian Kelly - wants to get into the NFL eventually. Would be someone I would take some serious consideration in though. Would be on my short list. However, he is 54 years old now. So, if he wants that NFL shot, he needs to take it ASAP.
My short list would be the following names:
Justin Fuente at Memphis
Scott Frost at Oregon
Bryan Harsin at Boise State
Willie Fritz at Georgia Southern has won at every school. However, he turns 56. So maybe a decade out of him.
Tom Herman at Houston
Brent Venables at Clemson
All of the guys on my list besides the head coach at Georgia Southern is in heir early 40's or late 30's.
I would list my list in this order:
1) Justin Fuente at Memphis
2) Willie Fritz at Georgia Southern has won at every school. However, he turns 56. So maybe a decade out of him.
3) Tom Herman at Houston
4) Scott Frost at Oregon (Nebraska native)
5) Bryan Harsin at Boise State
6) Brent Venables at Clemson (Kansas native)
I understand that people would prefer to hire a head coach that won multiple conference titles, national titles or a super bowl, but by the time a head coach reaches that level they are already well into their 50's or 60's and starting to get to the point where they will be winding down their passion, drive, and goals to win it all since they will have already gotten their pay day.
Jim Harbaugh is only 51 years old, which is the rare exception to the elite list. If he stays at Michigan, Michigan could have him for a good 10 or 15 years yet. Jim's older brother is obviously older and already reach the top of the football world. Is competing against the likes of Purdue and IL on yearly basis going to be exciting for him? I doubt it since he is use to going to battle against the best the sport can provide.
USCw got lucky with their hire from the Seattle head coach since he got fired at two jobs in the NFL and it worked out for them, but man did they get roasted for that hire. After he won in college he ran right back to the NFL and left USCw in sanctions and they are still trying to recover from his exit.
The three names we should seriously consider are Scott Frost, Justin Fuente and Fritz.
Go young. Go hungry. Go with the young gamble that has the desire to reach the top of the college football world. I"m sorry, but once you have been around for decades and losing games and already got the pockets filled with money to walk to the beach at any given moment, the energy and passion can go away pretty dang quick.
Justin has the longest winning streak in the country and that includes wins over P5 teams. Scott, even when he has a bad game with play calling, is still putting up over 500 yards and many touchdowns in a game. Fritz would have a rushing attack in the B1G West that would make the rest of the division ask for mercy by the 4th quarter.
Let's examine who these elite proven head coaches are:
1) Chip Kelly - turns 52 years old. He will remain in the NFL to try and win at an elite level. However, he has not won anything at the highest level of college football or the NFL besides a conference title. He came up short in a national title game.
2) John Harbaugh - Super Bowl winning coach. NFL guy likely to stay in the NFL. If he goes to the college game, it will likely be to USCw, but that is likely not to happen. In his 50's.
3) Bill Belichick - Turns 64 next year. NFL guy that will go down as a legend.
4) Steve Spurrier - out of date.
I'm not going to keep going over NFL guys as that will take too much time to type out.
5) Nick Saban - nearing retirement.
6) Mark Dantonio - nearing retirement.
7) Urban Meyer - not available.
8) Art Briles - old.
9) Bill Snyder - retirement age.
10) Gary Patterson - oil money keeping him at TCU
11) Bob Stoops - past his prime.
12) Jimbo Fisher - young but not going to get him hired away.
13) Brian Kelly - wants to get into the NFL eventually. Would be someone I would take some serious consideration in though. Would be on my short list. However, he is 54 years old now. So, if he wants that NFL shot, he needs to take it ASAP.
My short list would be the following names:
Justin Fuente at Memphis
Scott Frost at Oregon
Bryan Harsin at Boise State
Willie Fritz at Georgia Southern has won at every school. However, he turns 56. So maybe a decade out of him.
Tom Herman at Houston
Brent Venables at Clemson
All of the guys on my list besides the head coach at Georgia Southern is in heir early 40's or late 30's.
I would list my list in this order:
1) Justin Fuente at Memphis
2) Willie Fritz at Georgia Southern has won at every school. However, he turns 56. So maybe a decade out of him.
3) Tom Herman at Houston
4) Scott Frost at Oregon (Nebraska native)
5) Bryan Harsin at Boise State
6) Brent Venables at Clemson (Kansas native)
I understand that people would prefer to hire a head coach that won multiple conference titles, national titles or a super bowl, but by the time a head coach reaches that level they are already well into their 50's or 60's and starting to get to the point where they will be winding down their passion, drive, and goals to win it all since they will have already gotten their pay day.
Jim Harbaugh is only 51 years old, which is the rare exception to the elite list. If he stays at Michigan, Michigan could have him for a good 10 or 15 years yet. Jim's older brother is obviously older and already reach the top of the football world. Is competing against the likes of Purdue and IL on yearly basis going to be exciting for him? I doubt it since he is use to going to battle against the best the sport can provide.
USCw got lucky with their hire from the Seattle head coach since he got fired at two jobs in the NFL and it worked out for them, but man did they get roasted for that hire. After he won in college he ran right back to the NFL and left USCw in sanctions and they are still trying to recover from his exit.
The three names we should seriously consider are Scott Frost, Justin Fuente and Fritz.
Go young. Go hungry. Go with the young gamble that has the desire to reach the top of the college football world. I"m sorry, but once you have been around for decades and losing games and already got the pockets filled with money to walk to the beach at any given moment, the energy and passion can go away pretty dang quick.
Justin has the longest winning streak in the country and that includes wins over P5 teams. Scott, even when he has a bad game with play calling, is still putting up over 500 yards and many touchdowns in a game. Fritz would have a rushing attack in the B1G West that would make the rest of the division ask for mercy by the 4th quarter.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:52 pm to nebraskafaninwi
Geez, man. No one will read that.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:15 pm to nebraskafaninwi
Nebraska has a coach already.
The problem isn't the coach. The problem is a lack of talent:

The problem isn't the coach. The problem is a lack of talent:

This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 12:13 am
Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:20 pm to nebraskafaninwi
Only urban Meyer, among the gamut of names from Belichick to Saban, is listed as "unavailable."
Darn accurate analysis of you ask me.
Darn accurate analysis of you ask me.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:33 pm to nebraskafaninwi
No mack or watson brown?
Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:48 pm to nebraskafaninwi
Venables? Seriously?
Posted on 11/5/15 at 7:23 am to nebraskafaninwi
I kinda feel bad...so much work for so many downvotes.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 7:36 am to rolltide32
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Venables? Seriously?
That's probably the only one on his list that Nebraska would have a chance at.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 7:42 am to nebraskafaninwi
I think Tom Herman would be a top notch hire for Nebraska.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 7:44 am to nebraskafaninwi
You corn aggies need to stop with this stuff until Riley gets whacked.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:49 am to cardboardboxer
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The problem isn't the coach. The problem is a lack of talent:
Yeah, because the lack of 5-stars really hurt Riley at Oregon State...
He happened to find a few skill position players who were undervalued during the recruiting process, but he never consistently put together top-ranked recruiting classes in Corvallis. Unfortunately, that won't change in Lincoln either because he's just not a big name when it comes to recruiting.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:51 am to nebraskafaninwi
quote:
My short list would be the following names:
Justin Fuente at Memphis
well according to you...that ain't happening.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:12 am to tom
Nah, I would think three on the list we would have a chance with.
This was a discussion I have been having on another website and just copied and pasted my work here.
People keep saying, for any fanbase, hire the most proven and successful coach that is out there. A lot of that chatter and discussion is usually misleading since people don't realize how few elite football coaches there are and by the time a coach reaches that elite status, they are already well into their 50's and 60's and you aren't going to get many years out of them before you are right back to trying to find another coach again.
Saban was young still when he was hired at Alabama and everyone knows he isn't as happy anymore as he use to be. Thus, a school thinking they could poach him away from Bama for $10M or $15M and get Bama results is just not smart.
Nick was 55 years old when he took over the Alabama job. This is the end for him as he is 64 years old now. One last try at the NFL? Good luck.
In my opinion, Scott Frost will be the next head coach and I hope he gets a chance to be a head coach for another school this off-season so he can get the learning curve over.
This was a discussion I have been having on another website and just copied and pasted my work here.
People keep saying, for any fanbase, hire the most proven and successful coach that is out there. A lot of that chatter and discussion is usually misleading since people don't realize how few elite football coaches there are and by the time a coach reaches that elite status, they are already well into their 50's and 60's and you aren't going to get many years out of them before you are right back to trying to find another coach again.
Saban was young still when he was hired at Alabama and everyone knows he isn't as happy anymore as he use to be. Thus, a school thinking they could poach him away from Bama for $10M or $15M and get Bama results is just not smart.
Nick was 55 years old when he took over the Alabama job. This is the end for him as he is 64 years old now. One last try at the NFL? Good luck.
In my opinion, Scott Frost will be the next head coach and I hope he gets a chance to be a head coach for another school this off-season so he can get the learning curve over.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:13 am to nebraskafaninwi
Chip Kelly and Jim Harbaugh are the "young" elite coaches.
Michigan has Jim.
Chip will keep cracking away at the NFL.
Jimbo at FSU is another elite coach. Like he is leaving the south...lol.
Michigan has Jim.
Chip will keep cracking away at the NFL.
Jimbo at FSU is another elite coach. Like he is leaving the south...lol.
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 10:14 am
Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:14 am to nebraskafaninwi
I would have to think that the Nebraska gig would be pretty attractive to an Oklahoma native (Fuente)
Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:21 am to Tennessee Jed
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I would have to think that the Nebraska gig would be pretty attractive to an Oklahoma native (Fuente)
Maybe in a vacuum, but there are already three jobs on the market better than Nebraska. If Georgia fires their coach that makes four. Nebraska cheap asses aren't getting the hottest name in this competitive market.
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 10:32 am
Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:27 am to cardboardboxer
If you think any elite coach would come to Nebraska you're living in crazy land.
This is a factor of a lot of things....one huge one being that Pelini was a pretty shitty recruiter. He was a walking PR disaster, but a good Xs and Os type coach.
Talent has never been this bad at Nebraska, and everybody sees it but Nebraska fans. When you played us last week, we were genuinely the more talented team, especially at RB and QB.
Nebraska is no longer an elite program and its precisely why you hired Mike Riley.
Chip Kelly and Jim Harbaugh being mentioned in a thread about Nebraska is hilarious, unless "beat Nebraska by 30" is after their name.
This is a factor of a lot of things....one huge one being that Pelini was a pretty shitty recruiter. He was a walking PR disaster, but a good Xs and Os type coach.
Talent has never been this bad at Nebraska, and everybody sees it but Nebraska fans. When you played us last week, we were genuinely the more talented team, especially at RB and QB.
Nebraska is no longer an elite program and its precisely why you hired Mike Riley.
Chip Kelly and Jim Harbaugh being mentioned in a thread about Nebraska is hilarious, unless "beat Nebraska by 30" is after their name.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 2:12 pm to nebraskafaninwi
Scott Frost seems like a natural fit if Nebraska wants to go that route. I would think he'd take the job in a heartbeat if offered.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 3:02 pm to BMC398
Some of us know the lack of talent. I had been telling people for years bo was a shitty recruiter and player developer.
Chip stuff was just a comment about the usual talking point. Actually comprehend what you read.
Chip stuff was just a comment about the usual talking point. Actually comprehend what you read.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:12 pm to nebraskafaninwi
quote:
Some of us know the lack of talent. I had been telling people for years bo was a shitty recruiter and player developer.
Chip stuff was just a comment about the usual talking point. Actually comprehend what you read.
I comprehend that YOU think Nebraska is a destination job.
Reality should tell you otherwise. Comprehend that?
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