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re: My "money" source says...
Posted on 11/23/16 at 3:45 pm to TigerinDunbarton
Posted on 11/23/16 at 3:45 pm to TigerinDunbarton
Of course O worked his arse off, it was his shot at an elite job.....but he failed. Sorry losing to a battered UF team at home is a failure.
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 3:45 pm to LSU Groupee
You mean the one that has lost 7 games, including two blowouts, in less than 2 years, all against teams with significantly less talent.
Posted on 11/23/16 at 3:46 pm to Random LSU Hero
Sounds good to me
Feel free to delete now if you think you should
Feel free to delete now if you think you should
Posted on 11/23/16 at 3:47 pm to PT24-7
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No offense but % chances are the dumbest thing ever. He's either coming or not.
Yeah the whole concept of probability is fiction just like evolution and dinosaurs.
Posted on 11/23/16 at 3:48 pm to BilJ
I'm not an O guy. However, that was a blowout win if Jackson and guice don't tag team Frick us. To soon it any other way is just some of you following your agenda.
Posted on 11/23/16 at 3:48 pm to TigerinDunbarton
Herman is a risk worth taking because of the immense upside he has shown, especially in regards to Bama. He didn't just beat them while at OSU, they literally joined him by picking his brain on how to update their offense. That's a HUGE vote of confidence that can't be dismissed.
Jimbo is more of the known quantity. He may not have the upside, but we know exactly what we are getting, and it's really, really good. There's a reason these are the top two and the Grand Canyon separates them from any other candidate.
However, O should not be 3rd on this list, no matter what. Gundy and Fedora are not wow hires, but they are PROVEN winners at P5 programs. O isn't, and never has been. I kept an open mind until last week, but he hasn't proven enough to offset the many red flags against him in his time as an interim coach, either here or at USC. He may hold the status quo for a few years, but I don't see how anyone can trust him to run a program of this level after what we've seen in the 2 losses.
Jimbo is more of the known quantity. He may not have the upside, but we know exactly what we are getting, and it's really, really good. There's a reason these are the top two and the Grand Canyon separates them from any other candidate.
However, O should not be 3rd on this list, no matter what. Gundy and Fedora are not wow hires, but they are PROVEN winners at P5 programs. O isn't, and never has been. I kept an open mind until last week, but he hasn't proven enough to offset the many red flags against him in his time as an interim coach, either here or at USC. He may hold the status quo for a few years, but I don't see how anyone can trust him to run a program of this level after what we've seen in the 2 losses.
Posted on 11/23/16 at 3:49 pm to TigerinDunbarton
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I realize what he did. My guess is you don't have a pot to piss in, and have yet to accomplish anything in life, yet you are calling me "so dumb" although I worked hard and planned properly and retired in my 40s. But I'm the dumb one.
You seem like a bit of a prick.
This post was edited on 11/23/16 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 11/23/16 at 3:51 pm to TigerinDunbarton
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although I worked hard and planned properly and retired in my 40s.
You can't help yourself can you? Even when told nobody gives the slightest shite what you've done with your life, you still can't help but bring it up 
This post was edited on 11/23/16 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 11/23/16 at 3:51 pm to TigerinDunbarton
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I'm not an O guy. However, that was a blowout win if Jackson and guice don't tag team Frick us. To soon it any other way is just some of you following your agenda.
If he doesn't turn into Les Miles himself and put the Guice in the doghouse for a quarter and a half for that fumble, it may have still been a blowout. That move killed all the offensive momentum from the first two drives, which we never got back. The fact that he did this and played LF, instead of having the sack to say no when it needed to be said hurt our offense badly in this game.
Posted on 11/23/16 at 3:55 pm to misey94
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Looking back on our wins, O still hasn't done that.
You seem like one of the more level-headed guys on here, but he beat Ole Miss and Arkansas, something that we hadn't been able to do post-Bama in a couple years. We knew that November was going to be a bitch when the Florida game was moved. Now that we lost a game in that stretch, O didn't beat anyone. I get that Florida had injured guys, but we lost Fournette and Beckwith in the same game. Was their QB any worse than ours? Their secondary played better than ours.
Posted on 11/23/16 at 3:56 pm to misey94
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Herman is a risk worth taking because of the immense upside
This is the only other dude I'd like to see get the job.
Posted on 11/23/16 at 3:58 pm to TigerinDunbarton
and if not for aranda O doesn't even get mentioned for this job...I'm sorry but if the best argument for you getting the job is "hey I'll bring great coordinators " then you don't belong
This post was edited on 11/23/16 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 11/23/16 at 3:59 pm to misey94
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Gundy
With Aranda as DC there would be some epic blowouts in TS!
Posted on 11/23/16 at 4:05 pm to TigerinDunbarton
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You just proved the point of how good a coach he is. Are you a woman? Did he do you wrong? Because what you are saying is bs. If Louisville felt that way they damb sure wouldn't have brought him back.
Great coaches build programs that last, not houses of cards. See- Saban, Nick LSU (2000-2004). Last I checked, we are still building on what he accomplished after many years of futility.
Want another? Last I checked, Utah is still a solid program. They made the jump to the Power 5, withstood the growing pains, and are back to being a good team. You think Urban Meyer didn't have everything to do with that?
Again, name me his career accomplishments outside of a Big East title when the conference had turned to shite, and a couple of CUSA Championships? His Arkansas team that backed into a BCS birth was embarrassed by a Tressel-coached OSU team. I think he has one BCS win to his credit at Louisville. Woopty fricking do.
Basically, Fedora and Gundy have similar resumes to this genius, then. But they don't come with the cargo ship of bullshite baggage that goes far beyond chasing co-eds and then hiring them as employees at a state institution.
Posted on 11/23/16 at 4:10 pm to duboisd
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You seem like one of the more level-headed guys on here, but he beat Ole Miss and Arkansas, something that we hadn't been able to do post-Bama in a couple years. We knew that November was going to be a bitch when the Florida game was moved. Now that we lost a game in that stretch, O didn't beat anyone. I get that Florida had injured guys, but we lost Fournette and Beckwith in the same game. Was their QB any worse than ours? Their secondary played better than ours.
I have him credit for the wins, especially getting the team back up for the Arkansas game. I wasn't completely opposed to him still getting consideration then. I just wanted to see how things played out from there.
However, Ole Miss and Arkansas have gigantic holes and are both tanking down the stretch. A lot of that has to do with injuries, but they still aren't close to the teams we played last year as they stood at that time. They were solid wins, but they just aren't great measuring sticks.
They also don't distract enough from some bad decisions in the Bama and UF games. Those decisions probably still don't give us a chance to win the Bama game this year, but I think he and Ensminger cost us big time last week. He lost me then. He needed to make some winning pre-game and in-game decisions, and that didn't happen. His handling of the LF and Guice post fumble situations was pure amateur hour. We don't need that.
This post was edited on 11/23/16 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 11/23/16 at 4:10 pm to Random LSU Hero
DALSU begs to differ. He has Herman at 85%, Jimbo at 10%, and Fedora at 5 %
Posted on 11/23/16 at 4:17 pm to uptowntiger84
I really think it's been Herman all along. Jimbo was the smokescreen.
I don't know what to believe... As long as we get one of the two, I'll be thrilled.
I don't know what to believe... As long as we get one of the two, I'll be thrilled.
This post was edited on 11/23/16 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 11/23/16 at 4:37 pm to JPLSU1981
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Jimbo was the smokescreen.
You don't need a smokescreen really. It's not like people aren't going to link top 10 available coaches to a top 10 available job just on speculation alone. No need for a smoke screen. Just keep your search extremely close to the vest. Leak a name not in any way connected to see if it gets public and then you know you've got a talker in your circle.
Jimbo is not a smokescreen tho. He and LSU have intense mutual interest. If he leaves FSU then LSU is his first choice. Same can't be said for Herman leaving UH.
Posted on 11/23/16 at 4:41 pm to uptowntiger84
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DALSU begs to differ. He has Herman at 85%, Jimbo at 10%, and Fedora at 5 %
But he also said we talked to gruden, which is really stupid in my book.
Posted on 11/23/16 at 4:43 pm to misey94
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He didn't just beat them while at OSU, they literally joined him by picking his brain on how to update their offense. That's a HUGE vote of confidence that can't be dismissed.
Imagine the power of telling recruits this. How could they not be impressed?
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