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More Details on Vandy's Offer to Malzhan & Why he Declined

Posted on 12/14/10 at 3:33 pm
Posted by TenTex
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Posted on 12/14/10 at 3:33 pm
Sounds as if Vandy wrote into the contract an 18 million dollar buyout if Malzhan left his first year and also added he could not accept a position with any SEC School during the life of his contract. I'm damn happy to see a school step up with a contract that does not allow a coach to leave a school when ever he wants with little or no penalty. If your gonna offer a coach 3 million for 5 years then he needs to respect the contract. Vandy is ready to pay but not for a coach who will leave for a larger school. There's also talk if Vandy can't find the right coach for their program in the next month then put in another interim and get it right if it takes another year. They need a coach similar to Corbin and Stallings who will not leave for another school. He's out there, they just need to be patient.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33622 posts
Posted on 12/14/10 at 3:36 pm to
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He's out there, they just need to be patient


maybe so, but finding someone who will be successful and will want to stay at Vandy is like looking for a needle in a haystack. better to take gus imo than settle on a coach who isn't nearly as good but you think will stick around.
This post was edited on 12/14/10 at 4:55 pm
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41492 posts
Posted on 12/14/10 at 3:37 pm to
It's Franklin from Maryland.
Posted by MFV
Member since Oct 2008
911 posts
Posted on 12/14/10 at 3:39 pm to
Should have gone with Ken Nemoluopopoi or however you spell it.
Posted by ctalati32
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/14/10 at 3:44 pm to
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Should have gone with Ken Nemoluopopoi or however you spell it.




Ken Niumatalolo from Navy?
This post was edited on 12/14/10 at 3:45 pm
Posted by Angry LLAMA
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/14/10 at 3:48 pm to
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18 million dollar buyout
wow
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added he could not accept a position with any SEC School during the life of his contract
wow
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Vandy is ready to pay but not for a coach who will leave for a larger school.
then they better set their sights lower
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There's also talk if Vandy can't find the right coach for their program in the next month then put in another interim and get it right if it takes another year
i honestly dont hate this idea if LSU had to do the same thing *hypothetically* if miles were leave. better to sacrifice 1 year then to grab the wrong guy b/c of a lack of options and lose 3-5 years
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
21496 posts
Posted on 12/14/10 at 4:06 pm to
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More Details on Vandy's Offer to Malzhan & Why he Declined


because it's Vandy?
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21021 posts
Posted on 12/14/10 at 4:13 pm to
I don't get why people are saying "because it's Vandy"??? They offered $3 MILLION PER YEAR!!! There's not many schools willing to put up that kind of dough.

And to boot, if he didn't succeed, he could still always use the excuse, "Hey it was Vandy. What did you expect me to do?"

ETA for really bad spelling
This post was edited on 12/14/10 at 4:33 pm
Posted by Angry LLAMA
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/14/10 at 4:28 pm to
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I don't get why people are saying "because it's Vandy
their academic standards are too high to get elite athletes in. elite athletes that everyone else in the conference uses. or as Paul Hornung put it: "the black athlete"
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4688 posts
Posted on 12/14/10 at 4:33 pm to
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Vandy is ready to pay but not for a coach who will leave for a larger school

I still don't think Vandy will be able to find a coach who will not bolt for a larger school if he proves to be successful. It's harder to recruit at Vanderbilt due to academics and being in Tenn. Their facilities aren't the top half of the conference: they are one of 2 schools that don't have indoor football practice facilities.

One of those you can improve, but you're not going to be able to out-recruit LSU, Florida, Bama, and UGA.

Vandy has signed 4 4* recruits and 0 5* recruits in the last 8 years. LINK Compare that to LSU who signed 15 4* and 1 5* just in 2010.

Do you think that will change just because they hire a $3 M coach?
This post was edited on 12/14/10 at 4:41 pm
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 12/14/10 at 5:30 pm to
All Vandy offered was the kinda pay a coach can get from other SEC schools and in return his commitment to stay and build a program.
Posted by fontell
Montgomery
Member since Sep 2006
4595 posts
Posted on 12/14/10 at 8:20 pm to
I couldn't disagree more,
Signed
Gerry Dinardo
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4688 posts
Posted on 12/14/10 at 9:46 pm to
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If your gonna offer a coach 3 million for 5 years then he needs to respect the contract
another thought: should Michigan respect their contract with Rich Rod and not fire him? I guess Miami didn't respect their contract either after an 8-4 season.

Works both ways.
Posted by filmmaker45
Member since Mar 2008
14554 posts
Posted on 12/14/10 at 10:28 pm to
They need a MICHIGAN MAN!
Posted by Lee County Tiger
I Haz Sources
Member since Oct 2009
33357 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 12:24 am to
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They need a MICHIGAN MAN!


Harbaugh isn't going to Vandy.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
31120 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 4:00 am to
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They need a coach similar to Corbin and Stallings who will not leave for another school. He's out there, they just need to be patient.


Main difference being Vandy can sustain very competitive programs on the court and diamond(especially in the East for Baseball)..

SEC Football is almost apple vs orange in contrast.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26743 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 6:51 am to
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It's Franklin from Maryland.


NO NO NO!!!!!!!


Posted by purpleturtle50
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
1261 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 8:55 am to
Everyone needs to realize that Vandy's athletic program falls under the intrmurel department. They have no athletic director and because of academic requirements it's going to be hard to win there.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 11:03 am to
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Do you think that will change just because they hire a $3 M coach?


It has for others. If an offensive stud who is academically gifted enough to do both, he would choose Vandy with an explosive offensive mind running the show.

Points

Early playin time
Playing in the toughest conference in the country
Top flight education
Gawdy stats
etc..

Definitely much tougher to recruit, but it can be done to a point where they are respectable.
This post was edited on 12/15/10 at 11:17 am
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4688 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 11:10 am to
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If an offensive stud who is academically gifted enough to do both, he would choose Vandy

How many guys like this are in the country?

Even with Jay Cutler, who was drafted #11 overall in the NFL, couldn't win at Vandy. They finished 5-6 and Cutler won SEC Offensive player of the year in 2005.

Even Gerry DiNardo never finished a season over .500 before he was hired at LSU to go 7-4, 10-2, 9-3, 4-7, 2-8. His best record at Vandy: 5-6. Vandy has had ONE season (7-6) over .500 since 1982.
This post was edited on 12/15/10 at 11:16 am
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