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Posted on 11/28/11 at 8:20 am to jampat
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You got much better talent in Florida
And a lot more competition for the talent.
Ohio has more FBS talent than you realize. Seven FBS teams in state plus the Michigans, Notre Dame, Penn State and Pitt recruiting the state hard. It's a top 5 state for high school talent.
I'd add Illinois but with Zook gone they probably won't be shotgunning offers to every Ohio kid with a pulse anymore.
This post was edited on 11/28/11 at 8:21 am
Posted on 11/28/11 at 8:21 am to Chicken
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Most people agree that the Florida job is better than the Ohio State job.
Going to have to agree to disagree. In your neck of the woods? Yes, people would say that. Nationally, not so much.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 8:23 am to VABuckeye
quote:haha...Pat Forde wrote that in the article linked in this thread!
Nationally, not so much.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 8:26 am to Chicken
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Pat Forde
Gotcha. I'll be sure to take everything Pat Forde writes as gospel.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 8:30 am to VABuckeye
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Most people agree that the Florida job is better than the Ohio State job.
Going to have to agree to disagree. In your neck of the woods? Yes, people would say that. Nationally, not so much.
LINK
SI says that Ohio State's job is better... barely.
tOSU is #2 and Florida is #4 on that list, with part of the reason Florida being that low is that it's nearly tied with fellow SEC teams Georgia, LSU, and Alabama, which are 5-7 on the list.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 8:31 am to ZereauxSum
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He'll win games. He'll beat Michigan and win the Big10 for you. Perhaps even a NC. But you're indeed wise not to expect him to work through his contract.
You might be right; however, I would rather have a few years of greatness instead of 10 years of meritocracy.
You never know, maybe, he will change and stay for the long haul...maybe not...in either case, he is a great hire for Ohio State.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 8:59 am to VABuckeye
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No, it isn't.
Florida was middle of the pack in college football prior to 1996 and they're back in the middle of the SEC pack as we speak.
Ohio State has been a top 5 job for a long time.
As for the NCAA hammer? You're going to be sorely disappointed at the sanctions. They'll be a little harsher than what Ohio State has already self-imposed.
But all that is good about OSU hasn't really generated many NC's in the last 4 decades. One NC in the last forty years. Which suggests the weakness of the Big 10. Meaning OSU gathers the available local talent, but that talent is only good enough to win the Big 10.
Where as in Florida when you have the right coaching has the talent to win the toughest conference and NC's consistently. The history and facts back up the fact Florida is the better job if the coach is wanting to win NC's. If you want to win the BIG 10 then of course OSU is the top program to be at.
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Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:02 am to Muahahaha
I have said since day one that if he takes a job in the first couple of years he is indeed an lying fake. I don't know how a recruit's parents can trust him to care for their son if he doesn't even care about his own.
OSU folks are die hards so parents of recruits aren't likely to GAS. However, the FL recruits will be hearing it from all sides about how much of a fake he is.
Good luck to him either way and good riddance.
OSU folks are die hards so parents of recruits aren't likely to GAS. However, the FL recruits will be hearing it from all sides about how much of a fake he is.
Good luck to him either way and good riddance.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:03 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Where as in Florida when you have the right coaching has the talent to win the toughest conference and NC's consistently. The history and facts back up the fact Florida is the better job if the coach is wanting to win NC's. If you want to win the BIG 10 then of course OSU is the top program to be at.
This is circular logic; how many titles did UF have before Meyer? He may have been a lot of the reason they got that talent and won.
I'm not saying Meyer comes in and OSU wins the national title in 2012, but the guy's a winner and he will win, and likely win big. He can coach with the best of them and can gameplan as well as anyone in the business for a big game
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:07 am to Buckeye06
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He can coach with the best of them and can gameplan as well as anyone in the business for a big game
I'm not sure about this any longer. The last two years told me a lot.
Are you guys good with a lying coach again?
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:09 am to Muahahaha
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You might be right; however, I would rather have a few years of greatness instead of 10 years of meritocracy.
That's not a bad viewpoint and I agree, he's a great hire. I don't think that any team in the country could do better.
It'll be interesting to see what type of recruiting he does. He brought absolute beasts to Gainesville his first and second year, then proceeded to bring in the most overrated recruits in history.
This could have very well been bad luck or he could have been counting on Cam like a previous poster stated. For y'alls sake, hopefully he builds for the long term and doesn't leave you in UFs situation in 5-7 years.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:13 am to Buckeye06
OK let's just focus on OSU. Since 1970 a NC year OSU has won or been co-champions 20 times and have won ONE NC.
Are you saying you have had the wrong coaching there for 40 years and Meyer is going to get more out of the talent OSU traditionally gets?, or are you saying Meyer will have access to the richer football talent found in Florida to make OSU more like his Florida teams?
Are you saying you have had the wrong coaching there for 40 years and Meyer is going to get more out of the talent OSU traditionally gets?, or are you saying Meyer will have access to the richer football talent found in Florida to make OSU more like his Florida teams?
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:15 am to Buckeye06
quote:Have you heard of this guy named Steve Spurrier? He did a good job of putting Florida on the map in the 90's...
This is circular logic; how many titles did UF have before Meyer? He may have been a lot of the reason they got that talent and won.
Florida has three national titles in the last 15 years. Ohio State can claim one title in the last 41 years, and that one title is tainted due to a bogus interference call.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:28 am to Chicken
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that one title is tainted due to a bogus interference call.
Amen, oh great flightless bird of TD. I hate Miami more than I hate Iran.
That was a BS PI call.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:32 am to Chicken
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Florida has three national titles in the last 15 years. Ohio State can claim one title in the last 41 years, and that one title is tainted due to a bogus interference call.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:32 am to Chicken
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Florida has three national titles in the last 15 years. Ohio State can claim one title in the last 41 years, and that one title is tainted due to a bogus interference call.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:33 am to Sidewinder
Meh The same stuff was said about Nick Saban. Never hurt him with recruits or the media. I expect Meyer to do a great job at OSU.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:34 am to Chicken
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Florida has three national titles in the last 15 years. Ohio State can claim one title in the last 41 years, and that one title is tainted due to a bogus interference call.
And if plays were reviewed that game never would have went to OT and OSU would have won in regulation
It goes both ways. Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:47 am to SprintFun
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But all that is good about OSU hasn't really generated many NC's in the last 4 decades. One NC in the last forty years. Which suggests the weakness of the Big 10. Meaning OSU gathers the available local talent, but that talent is only good enough to win the Big 10.
In those 40 years Ohio State has finished in the top 5 fifteen times. This includes 5 finishes as the number 2 team in the nation. Not sure where you're going with the "weak" argument.
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