re: Mel Tucker’s record as a head coach is 14-12

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His last two defensive coordinator jobs were in Chicago and for Georgia and overall a very mixed bag. Both got significantly better after he left.

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he was not a great DC in the pros that's true, that doesn't bother me, lots of great college coaches did poorly in the pros (See Spurrier, Steve). its the experience that matters. at UGA they finished 35 in 16 (but that was his/Kirby's first year). The next 2 years they were 5th and 15th. The 2 after he left 1st and 17th, that looks pretty similar.

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Colorado he was bad as HC

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they were 5-7 (which they were the 2 years prior) not good obviously but not horrible. Its amazing to me how impatient we've become. We expect a coach to win NOW or we say he sucks? You know how many good coaches would have been DQ'ed Just as one simple example Mack Brown went 1-10 in each of his first 2 years at UNC in 88 and 89. His last 2 years (his first go round) 96 and 97 he was 10-2 and 10-1 and finished in the top 10 then had a great run at Texas. Now i get you wouldn't hire him after 2-20 but the point is given time he showed he can improve.

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Aranda has improved defenses everywhere he’s been as a DC,

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Wisconsin was a top 20 D the year before he was hired, he did get to #1 his last year year there, at LSU he did bounce around a little (2019 wasn't highly ranked but that is in part due to the offense and in part to injuries). I love Aranda as a DC, he did have more years as a DC in college than Tucker.

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and so far as a HC looks at least equal to tucker at mich state

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fair but 5-7 at a school that was 5-7, 5-7 the 2 prior years is not a debacle

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Michigan State still has to play Ohio State, Michigan and Penn St.

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that's the 3 losses i'm alluding to.

i think he beats maryland and purdue, but purdue is a toss up really. their backup qb seems to be doing well.

i think the purdue game is the big game for mel if our admin has any desire to hire him. he has to win that game. of course he has to beat maryland too, but that's probable.

i can't argue with any of that. Anything less than 9-3 would be a disappointment at this point but its not really exciting. if he does get to 10-2 or gasp 11-1 (can't see then winning in Columbus) that's a different story. Judging solely on record at this point though is silly, its simply not enough. He's a guy you hire on the cum, hoping for upside, like you would someone that't never been a HC.

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Judging solely on record at this point though is silly, its simply not enough. He's a guy you hire on the cum, hoping for upside, like you would someone that't never been a HC.

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pretty much. like hiring a good dc that can recruit and has shown promise he can turn things around, albeit a small sample size.

wouldn't be the worst hire for sure. i do admire him for not hanging around at bama or uga and coasting along.

I forgot that Tucker was at OSU.

I don't recall anyone singing his praises when he was at OSU, or caring when he left.

If Ohio State lost Hartline or Larry Johnson it would be a major blow.

When Tucker left nobody cared, and now he's going to be LSU HC?

Yeah, i cant see woodward going after mel tucker. His experience as a head coach is limited and his record is average. Sure, msu is 7-0 thus far, but they havent played anybody worth a shite. Their toughest opponent has been indiana ffs...congrats. I just dont see it.

You are moving up there as one of the worst posters on this site.

BLM, CRT and Tate trying to get him here!

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Had one year at Colorado, a garbage program

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5-7

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In his second year at Michigan State

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You skipped right over his 2 win first year

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he has them undefeated

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Hasn't played Michigan, Ohio State, Penn St. or Iowa.

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And I hate the whole forced diversity aspect.

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It's the ONLY argument for Tucker.