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Lots of great coaches….who’s the best recruiter

Posted on 11/3/21 at 8:10 am
Posted by Mobiletiggah
Mobile Alabama
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 11/3/21 at 8:10 am
IMHO, the obvious question and answer is who among the field listed at nauseam can consistently land a #1 or #2 ranked recruiting class. The reality is that now you can expect 2 years from a young player and less with the transfer portal. You can hate this fact but recruiting is why O had success. Hiring assistants….not so much.
Posted by budlight34
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/3/21 at 8:12 am to
Thats easy. Hes in Jacksonville right now.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28436 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 8:50 am to
Probably Cristobal

But I don’t think LSU wants to continue with the CEO model. For obvious reasons I think we/they want a HC that is a specialist on one side of the ball with lots of experience calling plays on that side of the ball. Doesn’t necessarily need to be calling the plays at LSU, but at least someone with the ability to lock down that side without being totally dependent upon coordinator hires which we experienced with O, and Miles to a lesser extent.

But to your point, yes…absolutely. It’s non-negotiable that the new HC has to be an elite recruiter or at the very least a plan to make the staff overall elite recruiters.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 8:54 am
Posted by Soft_Parade
North Carolina Coast
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 11/3/21 at 8:57 am to
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who’s the best recruiter
The best coach.

Demonstrate that you develop players while they are part of your program, be in running for the conference championship year in and year out and the recruiting takes care of itself.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28436 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 9:00 am to
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Demonstrate that you develop players while they are part of your program, be in running for the conference championship year in and year out and the recruiting takes care of itself.


You’ve got it backwards.

But yes ideally you absolutely want a great recruiter and a great developer, certainly. But the recruiting definitely does NOT ever “take care of itself.” If we ever have a head coach or culture where that’s the sentiment, then we’re in trouble.

There is no such thing as too much time or money spent on recruiting.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 9:02 am
Posted by sp22
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 11/3/21 at 9:08 am to
That you Dan?
Posted by tigerballs
red stick
Member since Nov 2005
551 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 9:14 am to
Napier makes a good case. I believe he finished 1st in his league the past few years.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11195 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:28 am to
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Napier makes a good case

I don't think so. He's a fantastic recruiter at the level he's recruiting at, but there's a pretty big difference between recruiting low to mid 3* guys against LA Tech and Southern Miss and recruiting top 50 guys against every major program in the country.

He might be able to make that leap, but he can't be considered the best recruiter, because he's unproven recruiting as a head coach at that level.

The best recruiting head coaches the last several years are Saban, Smart, Jimbo, Dabo, Riley, Day, Cristobal and Orgeron, with Brian Kelly maybe a hair behind these guys (might be more to do with ND Admissions than his ability).
Posted by GSP
Member since Oct 2021
347 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:30 am to
ryan day
Posted by BhamTigah
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Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:42 am to
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The best recruiting head coaches the last several years are Saban, Smart, Jimbo, Dabo, Riley, Day, Cristobal and Orgeron, with Brian Kelly maybe a hair behind these guys (might be more to do with ND Admissions than his ability).


Good list. Gotta throw Urban in there since people have been bringing up his name.

Also, I absolutely think Notre Dame's standards are what puts Kelly behind the rest.
Posted by saturncube21
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:45 am to
Napier was head of Bama’s recruiting for a couple of years
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11195 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 12:07 pm to
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Napier was head of Bama’s recruiting for a couple of years

I realize that, but it wasn't his program and he hasn't recruited at that level as a head coach. How can you consider someone the "best recruiter" if they haven't proven they can do it consistently at the highest level?
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