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Let's talk about leaks for a second

Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:14 pm
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:14 pm
Specific to Coaching searches and hires, how does this process typically work? On purpose or by someone (trusted) close to sources being in the right place at the right time?

Pendergrast and Shoop were our there... Fast forward

Miles has been able to keep things very quiet over the last 4 days

Charlie was hinting and hinting...like he knew something big but could not go public (to protect the source and timing) as though he was asked to hold it back, until today??

Monday afternoon rolls around and the leaks start happening

now, is this to give the fans and media something else to chew on for a few more days while Miles is doing a magic trick on someone else behind the scenes?

I am sure it's hard to keep everyone quiet but then again, your average American can usually keep a job interview very private.


Are the agents responsible for the leaks.

If it was done on purpose, would be the advantage of launching this tonight?

So ESPN will cover it with the build up of the game?

I am trying to understand the "chess" game that was being alluded to by other posters.

thanks
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 4:15 pm
Posted by 400lb. Ape
Member since Jun 2013
346 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:14 pm to
Enter John Fox
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63685 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:26 pm to
These are all good questions.

The only way I could see this benefitting LSU is by perhaps putting pressure on candidates to make a decision on LSU sooner rather than later.

Even then, I think it's a stretch.

It might just be that this search is finally getting started...and that there wasn't much of a search ongoing during the first several days.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
48886 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:29 pm to
What I heard last week was: Del Rio, Zook or Smart.

..but that LSU was fricking it up.

Kept that to myself until now.
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

What I heard last week was: Del Rio, Zook or Smart.

..but that LSU was fricking it up.

Kept that to myself until now.

im sure you did
Posted by Ironhead985
Member since Jun 2013
10209 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

fricking it up.
No surprises here. Doesn't hurt to talk to Del Rio, but there ain't a chance in hell he comes here. I would be excited about Smart if we had the personnel to run a 3-4 scheme. I think Zook would work, but why would we have to wait on a special teams assistant?
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
25255 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:40 pm to
JDR would be a HC candidate

We're not hiring an asst ST coach whose units have allowed 7 blocks this season as our DC.

And Smart is just getting him a bigger piece of AL pie. I wouldn't be excited about Smart who has been in a 3-4 w his Daddy over his shoulder and still giving up too many points to non-traditional offenses for our offense to overcome anyway.

Back to leaks.....

Most of that is a mole hunt if you get my drift.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
48886 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:45 pm to
I sure did.

Nothing was posted here by me releasing that info.
Posted by TickledTiger
Down & Out
Member since Dec 2007
2837 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

fricking it up
how?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:55 pm to
I'm betting agents are involved in a lot of these "leaks."
Posted by Goats and Joes
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2014
363 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:58 pm to
I was just told Don Pellum of Oregon by a buddy who works at the Alumni Association. He claims to have gotten the "inside scoop". What is the difference between leak and rumor?
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56622 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

He claims to have gotten the "inside scoop". What is the difference between leak and rumor?


Well, I guess the difference is being allowed to have inside scoop versus the HC or agent, putting out a release to the media "Ok, you can say this...."

In some cases, I think the staff starts talking to their coaching buddies, and that's how we get chatter that becomes "smoke". the coaching fraternity seems to know stuff and they like to talk about what they hear about....

With social media today, it takes no time at all for an innocent comment to become a rumor that becomes National headlines...

that's how deals get messed up

There is a poster on 247 that swaps texts with Coach O...apparently Smart is in play... so let's see what happens
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63685 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

Kept that to myself until now.



Sure you did
Posted by Goats and Joes
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2014
363 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

HC or agent, putting out a release to the media "Ok, you can say this...."


Do you think that false information is leaked to put pressure on the right places?
Posted by HamBone14
Covington
Member since Jun 2011
1924 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

Posted by Goats and Joes
quote:
HC or agent, putting out a release to the media "Ok, you can say this...."


Do you think that false information is leaked to put pressure on the right places?



Maybe not false info. But they will definitely leak info to a reporter and do them a favor by giving them a scoop, and sometimes they will give a particularly desperate or loud-mouthed reporter information that may serve a purpose.
Posted by Goats and Joes
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2014
363 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 5:37 pm to
I can see agents having an advantage to gain by doing this, but I hope HCs are above playing games with reporters.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27846 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

Are the agents reaponsible for the leaks


Of course they are.

Les doesn't have Bob Schoop's number in his cell. Les doesn't have Kirby Smart's number in his cell. Les doesn't have *insert whatever name you want* cell phone number.

Everything goes through agents.

"Hey, Jimmy. Ask George about the LSU job and how much they're willing to pay."

"Ok, Kirby. I'll let you know what I find out."

Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 5:40 pm to
I thought we were going to talk about this guy:

Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163116 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 6:03 pm to
The Shoop leak was 100% orchestrated by Shoop and Franklin
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 6:23 pm to
quote:

I'm betting agents are involved in a lot of these "leaks."

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