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re: Kragthorpe...Another really high on Miles' list.
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:38 pm to JakeTheTiger
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:38 pm to JakeTheTiger
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This shite has Tony Franklin written all over it.
Tony Franklin is one of the best offensive minds in the business, regardless of the Auburn debacle.
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Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:38 pm to OBUDan
quote:there ever been a move Miles made that you didn't go along w/?
OBUDan
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:42 pm to Books
Books, we're all miserable because we question 1) Miles decision making/hires and 2) LSU being stupid enough to give him even more money than he's getting now. 
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:42 pm to LSUMafia
i am definitely more miserable now than i was before the season started.
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:43 pm to Books
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you love Miles,
I do, doesn't mean I can't criticize.
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not everyone does and the man has made his share of mistakes when it comes to hires. You see me bitch ab the Leach rumors? or how the season finished? You have selective memory
I don't troll around threads looking for your comments honestly, it's just everytime I do see one it's always of the negative variety.
It's fine, I know you don't like the guy, you are entitled to that opinion.
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:46 pm to Books
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there ever been a move Miles made that you didn't go along w/?
Sure.
Hated the Co-DC thing from the get go. Though I think rationally you could see maybe what he was thinking. Remember, this was before RP got the boot. We're returning a huge chunk of our offense, why not go for defensive consistency and try and make a run with a strong offense lead by a stud QB? In hindsight it was a terrible mistake (which he corrected), but coaches do this shite all the time. Promote from within... when it works out, you're a genius mentor, when it fails, you're a guy just trying to help out your buddies.
Then RP gets the boot and we are sidled with below average offense and porous defense.
Hiring Yanowsky was a total meh hire, but coaches hire meh assistants all the time.
Hell on the list of all time assistant coaching frick ups, check out Urban Meyer rehiring Stan Drayton this year after they let him go two years ago because his RBs had fumbling issues. Miraculously, that has returned this season. So I'm willing to forgive that.
Ensminger wasn't a knockout hire, but I don't think it was as terrible as it was made out to be.
Refresh me on some others, and I'll give you my opinion.
This post was edited on 11/30/10 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:47 pm to The Egg
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i am definitely more miserable now than i was before the season started.
is that because we had a good season and you know there's no chance of miles getting axed now?
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:49 pm to OBUDan
surprising list, every time I see one of your posts your spinning something in his favor. Kragthorpe got hired on as a WR coach, why was he unable to land something better if he's a good choice to run the entire offense at LSU?
This post was edited on 11/30/10 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:51 pm to OBUDan
quote:i didn't bring that up, you did.
is that because we had a good season and you know there's no chance of miles getting axed now?
what's up with you taking a super defensive position regarding miles when/if someone says anything that you construe as negative towards him?
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:54 pm to Books
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surprising list, every time I see one of your posts your spinning something in his favor.
ha.
well i try to be rational generally, but i probably fall towards the optimistic side 90% of the time.
i think miles is unfairly criticized a lot.. by his own fans the media, rival fans, etc.
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Kragthorpe got hired on as a WR coach, why was he unable to land something better if he's a good choice to run the entire offense at LSU?
your guess is as good as mine.
all i know is he has a good track record as a teacher, particularly with QBs.
i know he's a religious dude and his stint at louisville was so bad, he'll likely never get to be a head coach again.
i think his style would mesh well with les.
i'm not sure what happened to his coaching star or why it fell so fast.
dick jauron went from nfl head coach to defensive backs coach for the eagles. shite happens sometimes, i guess.
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:56 pm to The Egg
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what's up with you taking a super defensive position regarding miles when/if someone says anything that you construe as negative towards him?
i didn't mean to be super defensive... i meant that as a legitimate question.
is that why? or do you have other concerns now?
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:57 pm to Books
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Kragthorpe got hired on as a WR coach, why was he unable to land something better if he's a good choice to run the entire offense at LSU?
His wife has had health problems. This was the reason he resigned as WRs coach in the summer.
Posted on 11/30/10 at 5:00 pm to ZTiger87
Him resigning isn't the question. How do you go from HC and offensive genius to only being able to muster a WR position coaching job immediately after that is.
Posted on 11/30/10 at 5:04 pm to LSUMafia
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Him resigning isn't the question. How do you go from HC and offensive genius to only being able to muster a WR position coaching job immediately after that is.
Perhaps he didn't want the baggage that came with a coordinator or HC position while his wife was sick
Not saying this is the case.. but it's definitely not far fetched.
Posted on 11/30/10 at 5:05 pm to bmy
Or maybe he knew he'd be LSU's OC in 2011, so why take another OC job
Posted on 11/30/10 at 5:10 pm to OBUDan
i think he just wanted to go back to A & M, he was happy there before and would have been very involved in the offense from what sherman indicated. now i assume his wife is better as he was a finalist for the north texas job.
Posted on 11/30/10 at 5:11 pm to LSUMafia
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Him resigning isn't the question. How do you go from HC and offensive genius to only being able to muster a WR position coaching job immediately after that is.
His wife was sick when he resigned at Louisville. I'm guessing that played a part in his decision. He had also coached at A&M before. He could also have thought he was getting the LSU job and when he didn't it was too late to get another similar job. I wouldn't look too much into it.
This post was edited on 11/30/10 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 11/30/10 at 5:15 pm to ZTiger87
Yeah, it doesn't bother me. Coaches go through weird stages like this all the time from head men to position coaches back to head men and many times they are successful.
Posted on 11/30/10 at 5:15 pm to LSUchick2007
I personally don't know how he failed so badly at Louisville. He did well at Tulsa; a team that won two games the year before won 8 games his first year as HC at Tulsa. For whatever reason, UL didn't work out. Now, the articles one poster linked certainly weren't promising, but I would give he and Miles the benefit of the doubt for season before judging the hire were he to be made OC.
I still want Steve Logan to be the OC. Best QB coach/OC you could get in my opinion.
I still want Steve Logan to be the OC. Best QB coach/OC you could get in my opinion.
Posted on 11/30/10 at 5:31 pm to south bama tiger
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I still want Steve Logan to be the OC. Best QB coach/OC you could get in my opinion.
Agreed.
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