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re: Kragthorpe...Another really high on Miles' list.

Posted on 11/30/10 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 11/30/10 at 2:03 pm to
What was your prediction for the season maxi? It was nice having you MIA while we were doing well.

Face it you've got nothing positive for the guy. I know you get tired of hearing about his winning record and all, sorry
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81635 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 2:05 pm to
i dont make season predictions like you posi-losers but i'm sure yours was 1000-0 since Les Miles has never done in any wrong in your eyes
This post was edited on 11/30/10 at 2:06 pm
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 11/30/10 at 2:05 pm to
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bc when he took over UL's offense he was abysmal.



6th ranked in total offense, nationally in 2007.

LINK 2007

2008 after losing his entire offense, falls to 45th......

2008

2009 was a terrible year, but Kragthorpe basically kicked everyone off his team and you have guys like Adam Froman and a Justin Burke leading his offense.


If LSU had the 45th ranked offense this year, they'd be undefeated, IMO.

You may not like him, but "abysmal" is too strong of a word to use.


Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
94959 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

bc when he took over UL's offense he was abysmal.



6th ranked in total offense, nationally in 2007.

2007 Stats

2008 after losing his entire offense, falls to 45th......

2008 Stats

2009 was a terrible year, but Kragthorpe basically kicked everyone off his team and you have guys like Adam Froman and a Justin Burke leading his offense.


If LSU had the 45th ranked offense this year, they'd be undefeated, IMO.

You may not like him, but "abysmal" is too strong of a word to use.


This post was edited on 11/30/10 at 2:07 pm
Posted by HeadSlash
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 11/30/10 at 2:06 pm to
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if no one wowed miles last year and krag was available, what's different this time



No buyout for Crowton.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81635 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

If LSU had the 45th ranked offense this year, they'd be undefeated, IMO.


lol
Posted by tigerbru17
Billy in 4C
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/30/10 at 2:06 pm to
Any Steve Logan talk??
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
94959 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 2:07 pm to
Really?
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81635 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 2:09 pm to
really a guy who has never lost less than 2 games would have gone undeafeated if he had the 45th ranked offense? Yeah, really.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
94959 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 2:10 pm to
I know, I know.

I'm sure Lester would "have found a way to screw it up."

To each their own.
Posted by BayouRat15
DAUPHIN ISLAND,AL
Member since Jan 2004
10201 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 2:10 pm to
Tulsa's Offense in 2005 . Not bad, looked to be balanced. LINK
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19616 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 2:11 pm to
It must suck to have to watch him win 10 games huh. makes it that much harder to bitch.
Posted by Books
BR
Member since Jun 2005
11174 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 2:12 pm to
he fired his OC in between there and took over then the offense went to shite if I remember correctly. If he was good why did couldn't he land anywhere but aTm as a WR coach? Dont see coaches go from HC to pos. staffers too often
Posted by BayouRat15
DAUPHIN ISLAND,AL
Member since Jan 2004
10201 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 2:13 pm to
But the year after he left, Tulsa offense avg. 542 a game!LINK
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94959 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 2:15 pm to
That's because Todd Graham is a bad arse.
Posted by givemeabeer
Member since Mar 2006
3306 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 2:15 pm to
God I hope and pray we don't replace one crap offensive coordinator with another, like Kragthorpe.

Again - I posted about Kragthorpe last year (with quotes from comments on Louisville stories, quotes from blogs, and quotes from articles and ESPN):

LINK

A brief sampling of what I posted last year (quotes from Louisville blog and ESPN):

quote:

Well, throw one of those batteries back into the stands and I think you could hit someone to call a more imaginative offense. I haven't been a proponent of firing Krags during the season before; now I'm leaning that way. Send a message that the undiciplined mess of a game plan is unacceptable, that wasting timeouts when a game is coming down to the wire is moronic, that having a team with good field position look like they've never run a 2 minute drill is pathetic.

quote:

Even more so than that, Kragthorpe never fully utilized the talent on his team. For example, in 2007, instead of using 6-foot-6 receiver Mario Urrutia as a vertical threat as Petrino had, Kragthorpe's offense often called plays for Urrutia to go over the middle or catch screen passes. An unhappy Urrutia wound up leaving after the season as a junior.

Kragthorpe had three different offensive coordinators and four different defensive playcallers during his tenure. His teams often looked disjointed on the field, repeatedly burning timeouts in confusion early in games or lining up in the wrong formations. Kragthorpe's calls on third and fourth downs prompted a lot of head-scratching.


Basically, Kragthorpe is Crowton with less credentials. That...ain't...good.

Belowpar, can you change Miles' mind on this? PLEASE?
This post was edited on 11/30/10 at 2:20 pm
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81635 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 2:16 pm to
it sucks to have to watch his retarded shite at the end of the UT game, his unhealthy attachment to a garbage QB, him need help from the refs to survive against UNC's 3rd string, his defense not even putting up a fight against AU, looking out of it against Arkansas, needing a lucky bounce on a fake FG to beat a shitty UF team etc etc etc
Posted by Books
BR
Member since Jun 2005
11174 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 2:16 pm to
thank you
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19616 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 2:17 pm to
FWIW I'm not sure this would be a good move. I do think a better fit with Les is what we need. If Les is staying then let's get it going in the same direction. I think Stud needs to leave with GC too
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
82494 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 2:18 pm to
Wow, Miles and he seem to have alot in common
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