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re: Kiffin about to get paid
Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:09 pm to HottyToddy7
Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:09 pm to HottyToddy7
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This aint then.
It isnt, but the fact remains that Auburn is a much better job than OM. Just like back then.
You say Auburn is only marginally better and Lane will leave in 2 more years for a top 5 program. Well, I hate to break it to you, but Auburn is already a top 15-20 program nationally, and has much more exposure, money, better facilities, fanbases, etc. So he can jump right now, build for two years and have a legit shot at making a run at a Natty. He's topped out at OM.
It is what it is.
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Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:11 pm to AUWDE
quote:To get paid $7.5 million a year for himself and a huge raise in his assistant pool he would. Sorry to burst your bubble man. Auburn isn’t as far ahead of Ole Miss as you think it is
One thing Lane Kiffin is not is stupid, and there would be no reason for him to agree to a $20M buyout at ole freaking miss
Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:12 pm to IAmNERD
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You say Auburn is only marginally better and Lane will leave in 2 more years for a top 5 program. Well, I hate to break it to you, but Auburn is already a top 15-20 program nationally, and has much more exposure, money, better facilities, fanbases, etc. So he can jump right now, build for two years and have a legit shot at making a run at a Natty. He's topped out at OM.
It is what it is.
OM is top 25 and about to roll back to back 10 win seasons with an NFL QB that has 2 years left. It ain't worth the jump. That roster you guys have is awful. No QB. It would take him 2 years to even be competetive. Why cut the bridge to Bama for life and start over when you could roll 3 back to back to back 10 win seasons at OM and get any job you want.
But Auburn is better than OM so any coach would die to leave OM for Auburn. That is your logic here. Take off the Orange and Blue glasses. As Cam said "It's a business decision" and not the kind of retirement money and fail in 3 years. Its a premier job in the next 5 while not being stuck behind Saban and Kirby and fighting for scraps while being judged to the 2 biggest juggernauts in the sport.
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:23 pm to HottyToddy7
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while not being stuck behind Saban and Kirby
Thing is, we actually can compete with Saban and Kirby. It's even been proven on the field. At Auburn, 10 win seasons aren't the barometer for success. Winning the division and competing for and winning SEC and National championships is.
That fact alone leaves a large chasm between AU and OM.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:27 pm to IAmNERD
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Thing is, we actually can compete with Saban and Kirby. It's even been proven on the field. At Auburn, 10 win seasons aren't the barometer for success. Winning the division and competing for and winning SEC and National championships is.
That fact alone leaves a large chasm between AU and OM.
That isn't the issue at hand. Zoom Out. Why would anyone willingly go to Auburn and be judged by how they compete with the 2 best programs in the country? That is a death sentence for a coach.
Not to mention the fastest boosters to turn on you in the country.
And a roster that is gutted.
Lane ain't taking it. He could get Texas, UF, UCLA, Oklahoma, Alabama all in the next 2-5 years. He has no reason to force himself in the middle of Saban and Kirby. Not when he is at a place with complete autonomy and the coldest of seats in the country.
But keep thinking this decision is only about OM and Auburn and the gap between the 2. It just flat out isn't.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:38 pm to HottyToddy7
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Lane ain't taking it.
I never said he was.
But to compare the two programs being discussed in the realm of possibilities where Lane takes a look, there is Zero comparison.
And you just named 4 of 5 schools (3 of 4 taking out Bama) that will be in the same league league as Kirby and Saban. The point YOU are missing is that to win titles you have to be at the Alabama's and Georgia's. Which Auburn has proven it can do more often than everyone else in the league. It's what separates the LSUs, Florida's, and Auburn's from the rest of the teams that are terrified for the Big Bad Bammers to walk in and beat you before the game starts. Auburn has been playing, and winning, in the big boy (top 5 or 6 teams). Auburn has had one of the toughest schedules for decades year in and year out.
Auburn can pay more, pay more for assistants, has a bigger fanbase, has better facilities, has a bigger national brand...any metric you want to look at for the program as a whole is a no brainier for any person looking to win and the choices are Ole Miss or Auburn.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:39 pm to HottyToddy7
Just to play Devil's advocate.
Because confident coaches believe they can beat those guys. Kiffin has, without any doubt, that level of confidence.
Or he might not get any of those chances. Have we ever seen it in his history where he waited 2 years for the better opportunity? He took the Florida Atlantic job, when you could have argued in another year he would have gotten a much better offer.
This is 100% true. But he has shown he can work the portal. And perhaps worrying to some Ole Miss fans, I think a lot of his current team would choose the coach over the school.
I am not saying he is going to Auburn, but you are so dismissive of it. The truth is AU has had more shots at national titles than his current spot. It has better facilities and historically recruits better. While all of that may not be enough, do you really think he would not at least consider it?
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Why would anyone willingly go to Auburn and be judged by how they compete with the 2 best programs in the country?
Because confident coaches believe they can beat those guys. Kiffin has, without any doubt, that level of confidence.
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He could get Texas, UF, UCLA, Oklahoma, Alabama all in the next 2-5 years.
Or he might not get any of those chances. Have we ever seen it in his history where he waited 2 years for the better opportunity? He took the Florida Atlantic job, when you could have argued in another year he would have gotten a much better offer.
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And a roster that is gutted.
This is 100% true. But he has shown he can work the portal. And perhaps worrying to some Ole Miss fans, I think a lot of his current team would choose the coach over the school.
I am not saying he is going to Auburn, but you are so dismissive of it. The truth is AU has had more shots at national titles than his current spot. It has better facilities and historically recruits better. While all of that may not be enough, do you really think he would not at least consider it?
Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:41 pm to higgs_boson
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consider it?
Yeah but the negatives at Auburn are numerous and heavily outweigh the positives from what is coming in the nest 2 cycles if he just is patient. And after TN/USC I'm sure he will be.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:41 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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To get paid $7.5 million a year for himself
Which he knows he can make elsewhere
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and a huge raise in his assistant pool he would.
Could also have elsewhere
So why agree to a huge buyout that prevents you from going somewhere where getting paid top dollar and having free reign pretty much on your assistant salary pool is pretty much a given with the job? Doesn’t make sense.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:42 pm to HottyToddy7
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Yeah but the negatives at Auburn are numerous and heavily outweigh the positives from what is coming in the nest 2 cycles if he just is patient. And after TN/USC I'm sure he will be.
I think that is fair, but I am not sold on the patience you are referring to
Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:44 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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To get paid $7.5 million a year
Ole Miss would have given him that regardless you are so desperate.
What would Ole Miss do when Jimmy Sexton said “oh Lane isn’t doing a $20M buyout”….tell him to leave?
The fact that Ole Miss didn’t release that as well also tells that either there isn’t one or its very low, or else Ole Miss would be advertising that everywhere rather than having their delusional fan base throw out completely absurd numbers.
Its funny I asked multiple Ole Miss posters to just post showing where that is an accurate representation of his buyout yet it hasn’t happened yet
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:48 pm to AUWDE
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their delusional fan base throw out completely absurd numbers.
Its funny I asked multiple Ole Miss posters to just post showing where that is an accurate representation of his buyout yet it hasn’t happened yet
Yeah, I'd love to see a link that backs up those crazy numbers as I just believed it thinking that they must have been made public with it being a state employee contract, but I can't find it anywhere...other than here.
ETA: It doesn't look like we will ever find out. We are just supposed to take OM fans on TD.com at their word. You know, because having a coach pay a buyout that's almost what he would make for 3/4ths of the value of the entire contract seems legit...
I'm sure Jimmy Sexton told Lane to sign that immediately because there's no way he'd get a deal like that ever again. 
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 1:02 pm
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