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re: Kevin Mawae First Call that should be made!!

Posted on 12/21/20 at 1:29 pm to
Posted by Awesome All Day
Plaquemine, La
Member since Jul 2011
830 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 1:29 pm to
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We should bring in Josh Reed to coach WRs and Ryan Clark to coach Safeties while we’re hiring former players. They must be great coaches by virtue of being great players.

One of these is not like the others. Mawae is a HOF, former President of the NFLPA, has a desire to coach, and oh yeah.... LOVES LSU. There are more pros to hiring him than cons.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
36331 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 1:31 pm to
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Have you seen what the analysts do during games? It's not any different than other coaches.


They aren’t allowed to recruit. We need a 100% PROVEN guy as both a developer and recruiter this time.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
36331 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 1:35 pm to
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I understand people drawing the linear conclusion of former greats and translating to coaching, but Kevin is far different. There's a reason the players trusted him to represent them in the league. That reason is why parents/players will trust him to develop and look after them (recruiting).


Then hire him as an analyst and see if he can prove that he’s qualified to be an on-field coach. Short of that, he need to prove it somewhere else. He just hasn’t done that yet. Those of us who are skeptical aren’t knocking him. It just doesn’t make sense to hire an unproven guy when we don’t have to.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116455 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 1:35 pm to
Mawae always campaigns for this job when it’s open but he never chooses to go somewhere to work his way up the coaching ranks to make it happen.

Also the only way to know if someone can recruit is to see them actually recruit. Save me all the talk about how good they were in the league or how smart or intelligent they are. You can be all those things and still never be a great recruiter. It’s a very specific skill that takes time to develop.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 1:37 pm
Posted by Coach7
GA
Member since Apr 2016
479 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 1:36 pm to
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We need a home run if we replace Cregg


Why would Cregg be replaced? His OL won the Joe Moore award only last year.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 1:38 pm
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116455 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 1:38 pm to
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Why would Cregg be replaced. His OL won the Joe Moore award only last year.


He hasn’t delivered at all on the recruiting trail and our Oline was not the best in football last year. Burrow masked a lot of deficiencies up front.

I’d never even heard of that award until last season, so I have no interest in making decisions based on that award for our program
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
36331 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 1:44 pm to
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Why would Cregg be replaced? His OL won the Joe Moore award only last year.


Both recruiting and player development have been uneven. We had three really good players on the line last year in Lews, Cush and Charles, but Hines and Deculus haven’t improved at all and Bradford and Thomas can barely get on the field. Are they all busts or can Cregg not develop all types of players?

Whether the problem is evaluation or development, there is a problem with our O Line.
Posted by Awesome All Day
Plaquemine, La
Member since Jul 2011
830 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 1:48 pm to
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he was widely known as the most crafty, technician in the NFL......Kevin's entire career has been based on hard arse work. He had NOTHING given to him.

One thing he has is passion and tenacity. God gave him that. It is those qualities that make many coaches great.

I understand people drawing the linear conclusion of former greats and translating to coaching, but Kevin is far different. There's a reason the players trusted him to represent them in the league. That reason is why parents/players will trust him to develop and look after them (recruiting).

Kevin is special at far more than being an excellent pulling center.......

I would up vote this a million times if I could. I understand some peoples hesitation with hiring him and giving him his first on field coaching job, but for all the reasons you just mentioned I believe he would be very successful at LSU.
Posted by Coach7
GA
Member since Apr 2016
479 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 1:57 pm to
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He hasn’t delivered at all on the recruiting trail

He was top 50 in the SEC, good enough for 4th amongst OL coaches. Does seem like he has struggled at pulling in the big fish.

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our Oline was not the best in football last year.

Whether they were or were not, we can agree they were up there.
Posted by Coach7
GA
Member since Apr 2016
479 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 1:59 pm to
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player development have been uneven.


If it was me, I’d want to see how he does next year. He replaced a lot this year, and his starting LT was out for several games this year.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116455 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 2:02 pm to
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Whether they were or were not, we can agree they were up there.


They were middle of the pack. So I don’t think we can agree there
Posted by msbargas
Ponte vedra beach FL
Member since Sep 2009
727 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 2:58 pm to
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Why haven’t we hired Joe Burrow as head coach yet?? He was our best player so that means he would be the best coach.


LOL

Maybe in the future, when he retires from playing the game.

He certainly has the work ethic and the smarts to pull it off if he wanted to.
Posted by MONROE
In the belly of the beast
Member since Sep 2015
4391 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 4:07 pm to
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There is no reason not to have him on the staff


1. He has no track record for success
2. He has never recruited

There’s 2 quick reasons for you.
Posted by MONROE
In the belly of the beast
Member since Sep 2015
4391 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 4:10 pm to
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has a desire to coach


I have a desire to sit on my arse all day and get paid millions for it. Desire does not translate into results. Just ask Rudy
Posted by Ironhead985
Member since Jun 2013
10196 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 4:17 pm to
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Why would Cregg be replaced? His OL won the Joe Moore award only last year.
Well, the fact that he’s a shite recruiter for starters. I’m not going to take away all of his glory, but last year, Joe Brady’s system, along with Joey B being able to Houdini in and out of the pocket , CEH being the perfect back for that system, probably masked a lot of the Oline’s weaknesses last year.

This year, absolutely ZERO running game and defensive players being up our quarterbacks asses in under 3 seconds most of the time, good enough?
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 4:18 pm
Posted by Xenophon
Aspen
Member since Feb 2006
42753 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 6:01 pm to
Is his daughter still at ASU? If so, non starter.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
5086 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 6:54 pm to
Mawae is a no brainer homerun hire.

He is better than what we have had.
Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
9875 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 7:04 pm to
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. Mawae is a HOF, former President of the NFLPA, has a desire to coach, and oh yeah.... LOVES LSU

Something missing here, can't put my finger on it.

Oh yeah. Never been an OL coach. Which is the job you want him for.
Posted by LSUFM
Flower Mound, TX
Member since Oct 2018
729 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 7:06 pm to
What about Rob Sale, former player, freshman all-American, played guard and center. Coached in the NFL, and at college level, now offensive coordinator at UL Ragin Cajuns.

Or Ben Wilkinson, former all-American center, Remington Award winner, coached in college and current OL coach for NY Giants.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
26535 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 7:17 pm to
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He is better than what we have had.

Better at what, exactly?

He only has a job now because his old NFL buddy Herm Edwards gave him one.
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