Jones screams desperation

Tell me what you know about evaluating a DC candidate?

I'm not being snarky. I just know that I have ZERO qualification for selecting one. So, I will wait for whoever it is and cheer like hell for him to succeed.

I honestly do not know..but, I suspect that the people deciding this have an idea. So, I will wait and see.

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Season ticket holders deserve much more than a rationalized reach.

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Start naming names.

You’re all just upset because you know nothing about the guy.

Normally, if they were looking at someone with a history of being terrible, I’d agree with you, but the majority of these threads bashing the hell out of the guy are started by people that know zero about him. By posters that will use his work with the Vikings and Bengals as a reason not to hire him.

No pros, only cons are considered around here.

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Tell me what you know about evaluating a DC candidate?

I'm not being snarky. I just know that I have ZERO qualification for selecting one. So, I will wait for whoever it is and cheer like hell for him to succeed.

I honestly do not know..but, I suspect that the people deciding this have an idea. So, I will wait and see.

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I agree with you 100%, but that's not how the rant works. Someone throws out a name and says how great he is then everyone else jumps on the bandwagon. They don't really know anything about the hire except that it's an "exciting" and "hot" name. Remember when everyone fawned over Larry Fedora? Remember when baws faped over the Dameyune Craig hire? Jones isn't a name they've heatd people fawn over therefore he must not be "good enough".

I think it screams more of a lack of plan and consensus about which direction LSU wants to go. Particularly Orgeron.

Freeman was the "hot" name. By all accounts LSU tried to get him and thought they had...until he decided to go to ND. Tough. But, no matter what people say, you can't force a guy to do anything. Particularly a guy who had plenty of good options. Him being the target made sense.

O then moved on to Nielsen. No, he wasn't the hot name. But he had college football experience. Was the coach of one of the better defensive units in the NFL. And had a significant history with Orgeron. LSU waited because they thought they had essentially their "fallback" option after Freeman. But apparently the parties didn't confirm it was contractually possible for Nielsen to come to LSU and Payton did what he had to do to keep him on staff in NOLA.

It appears LSU's "list" consisted essentially of two names. They thought they were going to get option A but felt if that didn't work out they had option B ready to go. Now, it seems like they don't know what the frick to do? It seems like on the one hand they want a minority coach that can "reach the players" (something Pelini clearly couldn't do last season) but don't really have a target of who that guy may be. So, going back to the only thing at which he has expertise, O looked for guys who he thinks can recruit LA. Jones has history with LA HS football so he fits the bill even though he doesn't have much of a track record of success as a DC.

IMO, Orgeron just lives in the macro environment. He wants a "great defense", but doesn't quite have a deep understanding of what it takes to be a great defense and what certain coaches can do with the personnel LSU has. So he doesn't quite know what exactly he is looking for and basically has been relegated to calling his assistants from the 2019 season and saying "Hey. Who can do what you did for me that season?" without any real regard for the fact the personnel from that season has changed

The baws on here that are just as retarded as ogre have already talked themselves into the hire

Well after Canada and Pellini, I would not trust O in the hiring process.

Yes It Does .... But don't say it to loud, the TD police will get ya locked up for having a opinion.

Yep. I agree.

The guy could be great, but he’s a reach.

Why? Because I can read a resume. There are other candidates coaching college ball who have better resumes who are running defenses right now or are position coaches on excellent defenses. Not ten years ago.

LSU can do better.

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Well after Canada and Pellini, I would not trust O in the hiring process.

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True, Ed O hired Canada, but that's not who he wanted to hire. That is who Joe Alleva told him to go hire after Lane Kiffin took the Florida Atlantic job. As Ed O always wanted to go to the spread since the very get go.