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Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:32 pm to cas4t
quote:Right I get that. But as of now, his actual hire has done well. WE can say it is because the sec sucks, but his hire did better than these schools coaches in their first years with their hires
I think the implication is that he clearly botched our coaching search, and other programs are seamlessly making big name hires.
Bama-Saban
UGA-Smart
Arky-Bert
Miss St-Dan
UF-Mac
USC-Boom
UK-Stoops
Ole Miss- Freeze/Luke
Vandy-Mason
Mizzou-Whatever his name is
Tenner- Jones
Only coaches who did better are:
Auburn- Gus
A&M-Sumlin(
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:32 pm to 1999
quote:
the man is thin skinned and possibly mentally unstable. he somehow found a way to make LSU look bad during the florida hurricane situation. then he rushed the hiring of O to make it look like he was his first choice all along. how he still has a job is beyond me.
could not agree more
so, next question- what would it take to fire him at this point? As pride said, O winning 9-10 games gives Joe some breathing room.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:34 pm to lsupride87
quote:
So, you want to fire an AD whose hire is about to potentially have a 10 win season?
Are you kidding me? You think Alleva has succeeded in his job?
We went 9-3 in the worst SEC in 10 years.
He should have been fired the day he hired Orgeron.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:34 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Bama-Saban
UGA-Smart
Arky-Bert
Miss St-Dan
UF-Mac
USC-Boom
UK-Stoops
Ole Miss- Freeze/Luke
Vandy-Mason
Mizzou-Whatever his name is
Tenner- Jones
Only coaches who did better are:
Auburn- Gus
A&M-Sumlin(
I think this proves that what you do in year 1 should be taken with a grain of salt.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:36 pm to cas4t
A&M hiring Fisher shouldn’t change any opinions on Alleva. Jimbo could have coached Florida State for 50 more years and Alleva would still be a complete failure based on his actions during the process that didn’t even involve Fisher.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:36 pm to cas4t
It will take O going off the rails
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:37 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Bama-Saban
UGA-Smart
Arky-Bert
Miss St-Dan
UF-Mac
USC-Boom
UK-Stoops
Ole Miss- Freeze/Luke
Vandy-Mason
Mizzou-Whatever his name is
Tenner- Jones
How many of these guys stepped into a team as talented as LSU's and was just expected to improve from a 9 win Les Miles coached team?
Including teams like Vandy and UK is just laughable
You really are the lnchbox of the sports boards
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:38 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:
a idiot
I always laugh at this.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:39 pm to cas4t
quote:Ok. But fact is Allevas hire has been good so far.
I think this proves that what you do in year 1 should be taken with a grain of salt.
At some point, we will have to actually stop melting about the "process" and focus on the actual results, which honestly are all that matters.
This post was edited on 12/1/17 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:39 pm to lsupride87
We did the same exact thing that Ole Miss did without staring down the barrel of NCAA sanctions. it is completely baffling and inexcusable.
And consider this, in the long run Tennessee will likely wind up with a better hire than we did despite their enormous dumpster fire.
Again, inexplicable failure on the part of Alleva that despite the obvious inability to perform in the most important aspect of his job, apparently allows him to just sit there in the same position plugging away, draining every ounce of energy left in this program.
And consider this, in the long run Tennessee will likely wind up with a better hire than we did despite their enormous dumpster fire.
Again, inexplicable failure on the part of Alleva that despite the obvious inability to perform in the most important aspect of his job, apparently allows him to just sit there in the same position plugging away, draining every ounce of energy left in this program.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:40 pm to lsupride87
quote:
So, you want to fire an AD whose hire is about to potentially have a 10 win season?
O’s sitting at 9-3 which is the EXACT same record that miles had his last full season. Did you want miles gone?
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:40 pm to 1999
It feels like those with the power to remove Alleva shouldn't look at simply wins and losses. The media circus surrounding the coaching search, hurricane Irma, and settling for Orgeron all are worth firing him.
Unfortunately I think many of our boosters are O baws.
Unfortunately I think many of our boosters are O baws.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:40 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Right I get that. But as of now, his actual hire has done well. WE can say it is because the sec sucks, but his hire did better than these schools coaches in their first years with their hires
Bama-Saban
UGA-Smart
Arky-Bert
Miss St-Dan
UF-Mac
USC-Boom
UK-Stoops
Ole Miss- Freeze/Luke
Vandy-Mason
Mizzou-Whatever his name is
Tenner- Jones
Did all of those coaches inherit the same situation?
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:40 pm to Deactived
quote:Not sure. I know Smart did
How many of these guys stepped into a team as talented as LSU's and was just expected to improve from a 9 win Les Miles coached team?
quote:I posted a clear fact. Fact is 9-3 puts you in the top 5% in SEC history for first year on the job. That is just what it is. I am sorry that success pisses you off for some reason because you still want to melt
You really are the lnchbox of the sports boards
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:41 pm to cas4t
quote:
how much should Alleva be criticized by LSU fans?
IMO, he’s not getting enough
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:41 pm to riverparish
quote:Yes. What is your point?
Did you want miles gone?
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:42 pm to lsupride87
quote:
But fact is Allevas hire has been good so far.
not sure how we can say that. it hasnt been "bad" BUT
LSU was preseason #12, so theyve underachieved in that regard
they also only beat two teams with winning records (A&M 7-5) and Auburn (10-2)
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:42 pm to lsupride87
quote:
we will have to actually stop melting about the "process" and focus on the actual results, which honestly are all that matters.
I disagree. I think how an AD handles certain situations and represent their university matters just as much. Alleva consistently has us wiping off egg.
IIn my previous post I didn't even bring up him fumbling the firing of Miles in 2015. What a mess his last 3-4 years have been.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:42 pm to cas4t
I'm glad alleva didn't pay that kind of cash to Jimbo. I think we can be just as successful with O, and if not, we find another guy. Jimbo was looking for a massive payday obviously. He got better terms after a bad season and even more bad blood with FSU.
aTm can afford to risk making this kind of mistake apparently. But if this would have been LSU making the hire, and it didn't work out, it would be a huge blow to the program.
aTm has deeper pockets than LSU. I don't think it was a bad move for them, but I do think it would have been for us
aTm can afford to risk making this kind of mistake apparently. But if this would have been LSU making the hire, and it didn't work out, it would be a huge blow to the program.
aTm has deeper pockets than LSU. I don't think it was a bad move for them, but I do think it would have been for us
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