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James Franklin and USC / Update - Looks like Helton is staying at USC

Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:50 am
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:50 am
Just as I suspected
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BREAKING: A source close to the situation is telling me that #USC head coach Clay Helton is coming back next season. #Trojans #FightOn #USCfootball @USCScoop #Pac12FB



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“The Audible” Podcast Discusses James Franklin and USC

Although we have yet to see an official report from any outlet, it’s been speculated by a number of national media pundits — from Adam Rittenberg of ESPN, to Pete Thamel of Yahoo Sports, to Bruce Feldman and Stewart Mandel of The Athletic — that James Franklin could be connected to the opening gig at USC should the Trojans fire Clay Helton.

Here’s a piece of what Feldman and Mandel said on “The Audible” podcast:

Feldman: People will say, “He’s a Pennsylvania guy.” Yes he is. And he has really done a really good job in State College. Here is the reality though, and I don’t know if Penn State fans probably will not like to hear this, but if you’re the head coach at USC, you have by far the best job, the best program in the conference. It is not even close in terms of you have all these recruits in your background. You have manageable academics to get them into school. A lot of these kids — most of these kids — grew up dreaming of playing for USC. You have really good facilities. You are also going into the Pac 12 South when it is in complete disarray, right? If you’re at Penn State. Yeah, it’s got great tradition too, and you got really good facilities. You also have Ohio State and Michigan in your division, not to mention Michigan State. I mean, I think most people who are objective and who are not diehard Penn State fans would say that’s probably the third best job in the division, right?

Mandel: Absolutely. That’s the reality of it. And another thing that should be brought up is: I don’t know if the Penn State fan base has ever fully embraced James Franklin even after winning a Big Ten Championship. I still hear the criticism every time they lose a game. They’re 8-3, you know, that’s not a bad season by any means, but I’m sure a lot of people thought it should have been better. So you could stick around and continue to butt heads with Ohio State and Michigan and trying to keep winning everybody over, or you could go to a place that is so hungry and desperate to win that you’ll be given the royal treatment the minute you step off the plane.



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This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 2:09 pm
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116458 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:55 am to
Noone has had a meteoric rise after a rape scandal quite like this since Joe Alleva
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
14043 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:56 am to
Could see him go to the NFL but not another college job
Posted by footwedge
Member since Feb 2010
799 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:05 am to
Is USC going to pay that much for their next coach? Internet says his salary next year will be $5.35M and escalates up over $6M by end of contact. Your probably talking about a jimbo contract, $75M 10 years guaranteed to get him.

This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 10:45 am
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
25547 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:44 am to
I wonder if Moorhead would go to Penn State as HC in this scenario.
Posted by LigerFan
Member since Jan 2014
2872 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:52 am to
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I wonder if Moorhead would go to Penn State as HC in this scenario.


And State gets Hugh Freeze

MAKE IT HAPPEN
Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
3297 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 11:16 am to
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Noone has had a meteoric rise after a rape scandal quite like this since Joe Alleva



Posted by bowlbound
Member since Oct 2017
629 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:10 pm to
SC has the $$ to pay whatever they want for a coach. That's not the issue. Does Franklin want to go there? It would be a great opportunity for SC to get their first black head football coach.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33424 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:13 pm to
Franklin to SC would be a great hire
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
25547 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 1:40 pm to
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It would be a great opportunity for SC to get their first black head football coach.



Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38456 posts
Posted on 11/21/18 at 9:06 am to
Jesus. Why does USC keep retaining Helton?
This post was edited on 11/21/18 at 10:11 am
Posted by loweralabamatrojan
Lower Alabama
Member since Oct 2006
13285 posts
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:27 am to
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Jesus. Why does USC keep retaining Helton?

Really good question.

Some have suggested that because USC AD Lynn Swann gave him an extension, he essentially endorsed Helton. So that means firing Helton would be Swann's admission of a mistake. His ego, they say, is too big for that.

Others say that because USC's Presidency is vacant and the BOT's priorities are elsewhere, the football problem is too low a priority to do anything about right now.

I can tell you this, the football loving alumni and fans are pissed off. If ND shellacks USC at home this Saturday, there will be a lot of noise made and people are going to start to vote with their wallets (those that haven't already).

TL;DR Really, really bad management.



Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 11/22/18 at 7:33 am to
Helton is a dog shite coach. Sad to see how far USC has fallen
Posted by Aussietigerfan
Sydney, Australia
Member since May 2015
2572 posts
Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:45 pm to
Latest is Helton is going
Posted by Mr. Elvert
Dallas
Member since Oct 2012
15329 posts
Posted on 11/22/18 at 10:00 pm to
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Latest is Helton is going


I’d have to agree. No way op is right, guy is a warm body
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71185 posts
Posted on 11/22/18 at 10:04 pm to
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It would be a great opportunity for SC to get their first black head football coach.




Why does this even matter?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33964 posts
Posted on 11/23/18 at 9:30 am to
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A source close to the situation is telling me that #USC head coach Clay Helton is coming back next season.


Don’t believe this for a second. They just know how to keep a lid on a story, unlike Alleva.
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
84329 posts
Posted on 11/23/18 at 9:54 am to
Not sure if I believe that. USC gets blown out things will change
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
14043 posts
Posted on 11/23/18 at 10:08 am to
Mike leach at USC would rock
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 11/23/18 at 10:25 am to
I can't believe USC stuck with Helton as long as they have. They've recruited at a pretty high level with him and completely disappointed on the field.

Going .500 with top ten recruiting classes should easily get you canned at SC. A lot of coaches can recruit like that at SC, and you figure they can produce more on the field.
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