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re: Is Miles Age Working Against Him?
Posted on 1/14/17 at 10:34 am to Stephen1979
Posted on 1/14/17 at 10:34 am to Stephen1979
The offense changed, people are so fixated on this and I'm not sure why. When they had Met they threw the ball because Mett was effective. The past couple of years they had LF and they pounded it. The issue became QB development which fell on the OC and QB Coach. Had Harris, Jennings, or Etling been able to consistently move the ball the offense would have looked different. However, they couldn't and it looked like shite.
O is doing fine? 2 losses and people start bitching about Les, we haven't seen what O can do since he hasn't even been a HC a year. So that is just an ignorant statement in my opinion. So when did I "predict the future" exactly?
Yes, that "very average coaching ability" turned around a dormant program in Oklahoma State and the preceded to have the greatest run in LSU history :rollers:
Yes had he gone out and hired someone... Crowton was only a spread guy... Cam was a QB developer and NFL offensive guy, yet he never tried to "modernize" the offense
the shite some of you believe
O is doing fine? 2 losses and people start bitching about Les, we haven't seen what O can do since he hasn't even been a HC a year. So that is just an ignorant statement in my opinion. So when did I "predict the future" exactly?
Yes, that "very average coaching ability" turned around a dormant program in Oklahoma State and the preceded to have the greatest run in LSU history :rollers:
Yes had he gone out and hired someone... Crowton was only a spread guy... Cam was a QB developer and NFL offensive guy, yet he never tried to "modernize" the offense
the shite some of you believe
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Posted on 1/14/17 at 10:45 am to tduecen
You say I have disdain for the guy, but what are you doing? You're not being objective or even listening to yourself.
You said O struggled to maintain what miles did. Orgeron took over a team with a 1-2 record. A team we thought would contend for a national title. Has Orgeron been given a chance to show what we can do here? Did I miss something lol??? He gave bama their toughest game other than the Clemson game. Guice ran the wrong way or we beat florida. We botch special teams out the wazoo or we beat florida. See I can play that game too. Sometimes the kids just don't make plays. Overall, the team looked much more prepared and energized under Orgeron. Do you disagree?
He's kept our best coaches, hired a top notch offensive coordinator and recruiting is going pretty well by all accounts.
As for the offense, were you content with our offense? You had no problem with consistently fielding one of the least productive offenses in the country, particularly the inability to develop any type of passing game? Did you think that was just fine? No change needed? What would you say was the problem there ?
You said O struggled to maintain what miles did. Orgeron took over a team with a 1-2 record. A team we thought would contend for a national title. Has Orgeron been given a chance to show what we can do here? Did I miss something lol??? He gave bama their toughest game other than the Clemson game. Guice ran the wrong way or we beat florida. We botch special teams out the wazoo or we beat florida. See I can play that game too. Sometimes the kids just don't make plays. Overall, the team looked much more prepared and energized under Orgeron. Do you disagree?
He's kept our best coaches, hired a top notch offensive coordinator and recruiting is going pretty well by all accounts.
As for the offense, were you content with our offense? You had no problem with consistently fielding one of the least productive offenses in the country, particularly the inability to develop any type of passing game? Did you think that was just fine? No change needed? What would you say was the problem there ?
This post was edited on 1/14/17 at 10:47 am
Posted on 1/14/17 at 10:53 am to Stephen1979
I'm very objective, you just don't like reading the counter argument because it doesn't follow your narrative.
When did I say O struggled? O loss two games which had fans ready to fire Miles (and it happened) so I'm not sure how that is better. In the biggest games of the year LSU looked the same as well. O took over a team that was 2-2 as well but hey...
As I've posted before under interim coaches players seem to always respond in a positive way. Now does it always happen? No, but studies have shown the majority of the time. I'm curious to see what O does because if LSU were to lose 4 games next year then it was a bad hire.
I've said the QB issue fell on the coordinator and QB Coach. Was I happy with the offense, no but was I happy with the result of games, yes. Les made changes when needed and didn't just make a hire to make one, he had transition years (BFP DC/Steele) where he waited and then made a great hire.
Cam and Crowton were both praised by this board and the media. They didn't work out, les's style of offense worked but he needed a QB to complete passes.
When did I say O struggled? O loss two games which had fans ready to fire Miles (and it happened) so I'm not sure how that is better. In the biggest games of the year LSU looked the same as well. O took over a team that was 2-2 as well but hey...
As I've posted before under interim coaches players seem to always respond in a positive way. Now does it always happen? No, but studies have shown the majority of the time. I'm curious to see what O does because if LSU were to lose 4 games next year then it was a bad hire.
I've said the QB issue fell on the coordinator and QB Coach. Was I happy with the offense, no but was I happy with the result of games, yes. Les made changes when needed and didn't just make a hire to make one, he had transition years (BFP DC/Steele) where he waited and then made a great hire.
Cam and Crowton were both praised by this board and the media. They didn't work out, les's style of offense worked but he needed a QB to complete passes.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 11:07 am to tduecen
I don't mind hearing the counter argument . I've enjoyed the civil discussion. We disagree on somethings and agree on some. I appreciate the banter.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:27 pm to LuckyTiger
How many times I have to say it. He'll collect checks from LSU for a few years then come back home to Michigan and do what he does best, coach the offensive line
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:28 pm to WMTigerFAN
The fact that he doesn't really want a job is the main thing working against him. Hell, Curly Hallman found a coaching gig. Any coach who wants it can find work, absent some kind of major legal or ethical baggage.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:29 pm to WMTigerFAN
He doesn't really want to work. It's like most people on unemployment- they get neck and face tattoos so they can't be hired by anyone. Then they sit at home and eat steak on the state.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 8:13 am to WMTigerFAN
He gets too much $ not getting hired. We may all think he is dumb, but he did get a degree in finance from Michigan.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 9:16 am to tduecen
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As I've posted before under interim coaches players seem to always respond in a positive way. Now does it always happen? No, but studies have shown the majority of the time.
I'd be interested in those studies. I looked for myself and was unable to find. Could you direct me to those?
The only thing I've found shows that interim coaches are not successful, more times than not during the partial season the coach takes over.
LINK according to this post-- "And yes, in case you’re wondering, recent history suggests one of the above is the common outcome in these situations. In 2013, five teams in FBS went the “interim head coach” route, not counting those with an interim coach for just a bowl game. Those five programs went a combined 14-16."
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:05 am to WMTigerFAN
I think him being a terrible coach contributes more
Posted on 1/15/17 at 12:01 pm to Blind Zebras
miles' incompetence and failure at coaching is working against him.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 7:28 pm to WMTigerFAN
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Is there an age discrimination attached to Les Miles that will prevent him from coaching again at the collegiate level?
Spurrier was about 60 (give or take a few months) when he took the SC job. I think Miles' inability to change and his demands to bring in his own coaches has hurt his chances. I'm not saying someone won't eventually bite (in the future) But he hurt himself towards the end of his tenure at LSU.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 6:07 pm to magicman0001
Have you heard him on the sports shows recently? The guy was always quirky, but I really think he's losing it. Age is not just a number. He's had brain surgery, and I really think there's something wrong with him. Maybe he's not very impressive during the coaching interviews.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:13 pm to WMTigerFAN
Les Miles not being a good coach is working against him. Age isn't helping though.
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