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re: Imagine O's pitch to an OC

Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:04 am to
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:04 am to
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and there it is.


Just too bad JA Did not make the same commitment regarding the head coach
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:05 am to
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How is Saban any different than Coach O?

competency

O was never deemed competent enough to run a defense

why do you think he has any legit insight into how offense works or should be run?

Saban was a DC in the NFL before tearing shite off in college at LSU with a game-changing D. he went to the NFL and his system evolved, and Bama is still reying on it. he's shown he's perhaps the greatest defensive mind in the history of CFB. oh and the greatest CFB head coach of all time. so yeah he gets to have input into the offense
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
6013 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:15 am to
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First off, don't compare Ed Orgeron to Nick Saban. That's just ridiculous.

Secondly, Saban was chewing his OCs arse because he was still tying to throw the ball and they had control of the game already. He wanted him to run the ball and eat the clock up instead of giving them the ball back without taking any time off the clock at all.

That's the difference. Saban wasn't meddling with his offensive philosophy but was just telling him to run the damn ball and get the game over with. That's what a head coach should do. He should manage the game and that's exactly what Saban was doing.


Sorry ma`am, I didnt know Saban was your hero. First off? GFY. I know exactly why Saban was chewing his arse.

If you think for a second that Saban's offensive philosophy isn't what's run yearly at Bama, you're fooling yourself.
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 10:16 am
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
6013 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:19 am to
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so yeah he gets to have input into the offense


Ah, I get it....only because he's Saban. So, all other head coaches in college that came from the defensive side of the ball are not allowed input on the offense that's run by their team. Got it.

You actually believe the boss is not allowed input. Wow.
Posted by OGJangalang
South Mississippi
Member since Apr 2017
563 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:31 am to
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Y'all must have missed Saban chewing his OC's arse the other night because he didn't like the way his OC was running the offense. How is Saban any different than Coach O? If Saban doesn't like the way the offense is being run, he will damn well make it know he wants it changed. However, he's never run or coached offense. With that said, everyone on this board would trade Coach O for Saban in a heartbeat.


REALLY!!
SABAN!!!!
You want to COMPARE ORGERON to SABAN!!
You even ask, " How is Orgeron different from Saban"?!
To start with, 1.)Saban has won multiple National and SEC Championships during his career!
2.) Saban may chew his offensive coordinator out on the sideline during a game but it doesn't result in a fist fight which leaks out to the media and causes distractions to his team.
3.) Saban has proven that if he loses or fires a coordinator that it does not result in a drop off in the teams performance. ( Ex. Different coordinators this year than last but still 11-1 and still in the National Championship Game.)
I can keep going but is it really necessary? Please do not compare Orgeron to Saban in an attempt to condone or justify Orgeron complaining about, changing, or handcuffing Matt Canada's offense.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10785 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:44 am to
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Ah, I get it....only because he's Saban. So, all other head coaches in college that came from the defensive side of the ball are not allowed input on the offense that's run by their team. Got it.

You actually believe the boss is not allowed input. Wow.



What qualifies O to have input into the Offense? Was h3 an offensive coach or coordinator? Maybe he was a defensive coordinator or maybe an assistant or even co defensive coordinator, those guys scheming against an offense may have some insight.

No, he was a dline coach and has no offensive background.

Regarding bosses having input. JA is O's boss. May be he should tell O how to direct his OC and DC.
Posted by koLSU86
Member since Aug 2012
4166 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:24 pm to
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Sorry ma`am, I didnt know Saban was your hero. First off? GFY. I know exactly why Saban was chewing his arse.


Lol. I can't stand Saban but he's a great football coach and you have to give the man his due. Obviously you didn't know exactly why he was chewing his arse because you made an incorrect statement. For the rest of your post, Saban completely changed his approach to offense a few years ago and started hiring coordinators to run the spread. He lets them call their plays and run their offense. He hires people and has already vetted them and knows what they're going to do. Orgeron hired Canada knowing he ran all the shifts and then tried to tell him he couldn't do it. That's like hiring a guy that runs the air raid and telling him to make his team into a power running team. You can't do that. Hire someone that has the same offensive philosophy that you want and let them run the damn thing.
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