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re: I would like to address those who actually believe Jimbo is "Les 2.0"

Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:48 pm to
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:48 pm to
I just did

ETA: I got you to 100 and you changed my perspective. Win win
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 3:50 pm
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:49 pm to
I'm glad I could assist. I just have a feeling this is gonna happen and I want folks to be pumped if it does.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:49 pm to
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:50 pm to
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Maybe Herman, but let's not pretend as though beating Stoops and Petrino is the same as taking down Bama on the road in early November.


Thats what I dont get about the non Jimbo people. Looking at everything on paper, Jimbo is the better hire. There is no argument.

Going off of what a coach might do based on very little evidence is risky.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:52 pm to
My only concern is the SEC west of course that would be a concern for any head coach but Jimbos competition will drastically stiffen and there is zero argument here. I just think Herman is someone Saban isn't sure of and doesn't know well and LSU/Herman could take advantage of that. Both will still be better then Miles for sure, I'm not sure how much better Jimbo would be though?

Then again LSU could just fit him better you really never know how this might go. Me personally I can't see Herman failing I just can't see it. Hope LSU makes the correct call whom ever that is I hope he does well. GT
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 3:54 pm
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:54 pm to
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Going off of what a coach might do based on very little evidence is risky.



yep, look at Charlie Strong. Overwhelming success as a coordinator and at Louisville. Did not carry over.

I know there are theories as to the Texas boosters and admin setting him up to fail. But that's opinions at this point. Fact is he has failed.

Jimbo is a known commodity. Herman is not. I'd be pleased with Herman, but more comfortable with Jimbo.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:54 pm to
The reason some believe he's similar to Les is because of his record. That glaring loss to Louisville is what lost me though.

I wouldnt mind three to four losses every year as long as he can catch lightening in a bottle like he did with Jameis every 4 years. Fisher had stellar seasons with Winston and Manuel's final year.
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 3:58 pm
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:55 pm to
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My only concern is the SEC west of course that would be a concern for any head coach but Jimbos competition will drastically stiffen and there is zero argument here.


Says the guy advocating for the 2nd year coach who's never been in a power conference.

I get wanting Herman, but using Competition against Jimbo while advocating for Herman Is downright ignorant.

Jesus
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 3:57 pm
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:56 pm to
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My only concern is the SEC west of course that would be a concern for any head coach but Jimbos competition will drastically stiffen and there is zero argument here


Is it really though? I mean Ole Miss, Miss State, Arkansas are nothing special. Sure Auburn and Alabama and possibly ATM are good but so are clemson and Louisville and probably VTech now that they have Fuente.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:57 pm to
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Jimbos competition will drastically stiffen and there is zero argument here.


There actually is an argument here. Bama is of course the best team in the country, and generally is. But after that, the SEC and the ACC aren't much different, and there is an argument that Clemson, Miami and Louisville are better than nearly anyone else in the SEC not named Bama.

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better then Miles for sure, I'm not sure how much better Jimbo would be though?


how things shape up is one thing, but it's instantly 100% better than Miles as a hire and for the spark it will provide the fanbase.

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Me personally I can't see Herman failing I just can't see it.


I agree but folks said the exact same thing about Strong. And Muschamp for that matter. There are no "sure things".
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:58 pm to
TAMU is not good IMO
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

Says the guy advocating for the 2nd year coach who's never been in a power conference.

I get wanting Herman, but using Competition against Jimbo while advocating for Herman Is downright ignorant.

Jesus


good point
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:59 pm to
I was giving them benefit of the doubt TBH
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 4:00 pm to
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Me personally I can't see Herman failing I just can't see it.


See youre just going on a gut feeling. Nothing based on facts or anything.


quote:

My only concern is the SEC west of course that would be a concern for any head coach but Jimbos competition will drastically stiffen and there is zero argument here


Besides Bama, was there any team on this years schedule that we shouldnt have beat?

With the talent we have at LSU, we are only under dogs in maybe 2 games a year. We play 3-4 cupcakes, 2 or so below average sec teams, and the rest of the 6 games we actually have to have a pulse to win. This isnt exactly murderers row like plenty make it out to be.

Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 4:01 pm to
I think they're about as good as UNC. I think Fedora is a better coach than Sumlin too.

I think Dabo and Petrino are better than just about every SEC coach besides Saban. Maybe Mullen, but he doesn't recruit. McElwain is pretty good I guess, but frick him.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295998 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 4:02 pm to
quote:


I get wanting Herman, but using Competition against Jimbo while advocating for Herman Is downright ignorant


Yep.
Despite reservations Jimbo is probably the best option right now. Herman has faaar more unknowns.
Posted by UptownnMike
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Aug 2015
4124 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 4:02 pm to
You and hashtag have on me the Jimbo train. Good with Herm too but Jimbo is a solid option to help our most weakest position. Imagine just tightening that up. 11-1 seasons and playoffs for years to come.
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 5:57 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71998 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 4:02 pm to
The days of Bama, LSU and UF all having legit chances at winning a NC are over, currently.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26098 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 4:03 pm to
I'm prepared to celebrate Jimbomas as long as he's informed in no uncertain terms that this isn't a job where he gets to get all of his family members into caoching. He is expected to hire top flight assistants with experience beyond "is related to Jimbo." That's my only concern regarding him.
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 4:03 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71998 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 4:03 pm to
Atta boy Mike
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