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Hypothetical List of Ideal Candidates for LSU HC Position
Posted on 11/18/15 at 10:26 am
Posted on 11/18/15 at 10:26 am
I understand that no change has been made, but my dad and I always enjoy discussing hypotheticals when it comes to potential hires.
I decided to review a number of both collegiate and professional coaches who either have direct ties to the SEC, Louisiana, or have served under some monumental coach (e.g. Belicheck, Saban, Meyer, etc.).
Coaches are separated by tiers, but their listed order is not indicative of my overall preference.
Also, I have chosen to list only coaches who would consider giving LSU an interview. Coaches such as Meyer and Saban are exempt from this list because you and I both know that neither is likely to depart from their current gig. Other coaches who likely fall under this particular distinction include Jim Harbaugh, Gary Patterson, Art Briles, Jim McElwain, and Bob Stoops.
And finally, career NFL coaches or individuals with essentially no ties to college football, particularly the SEC, are not eligible for consideration. For example, Josh McDaniels has served under both Belichick and Saban, but his only collegiate experience pertains to a single year he served as a graduate assistant under Saban at Michigan State.
Tier 1 “Must Calls”
Dabo Swinney (Head Coach at Clemson)
Age 45
71-26 Record
4-3 Bowls
1 Conference Title
4 Division Titles
Former WR/TE Coach at Alabama (96-00)
Jimbo Fisher (Head Coach at Florida State)
Age 50
66-13 Record
4-1 Bowls
1 National Championship
3 Conference Titles
4 Division Titles
Former QB Coach at Auburn (93-98)
Former OC/QB Coach at LSU (00-06)
Chip Kelly (Philadelphia Eagles Head Coach)
Age 51
46-7 Record
2-2 Bowls
1 National Championship Appearance
Former Head Coach at Oregon
Brian Kelly (Head Coach at Notre Dame)
Age 54
107-43
5-3 Bowls
1 National Championship Appearance
3 Conference Titles
Mark Dantonio (Head Coach at Michigan State)
Age 59
102-49 Record
5-4 Bowls
2 Conference Titles
2 Division Titles
Former DB Coach under Nick Saban at Michigan State (95-00)
David Shaw (Head Coach at Stanford)
Age 43
49-14 Record
2-2 Bowls
2 Conference Titles
Former OC/WR/RB Coach under Jim Harbaugh at Stanford (07-10)
Tier 2 “Questionable Consistency but Good Body of Work”
Mike Gundy (Head Coach at Oklahoma State)
Age 48
93-44 Record
6-3 Bowls
1 Conference Title
Former AHC/OC under Les Miles at Oklahoma State (01-04)
Larry Fedora (Head Coach at North Carolina)
Age 53
64-37 Record
3-3 Bowls
1 Conference Title
1 Division Title
Former OC/RB/WR Coach at Florida (02-04)
Kyle Whittingham (Head Coach at Utah)
Age 55
93-45 Record
8-1 Bowls
1 Conference Title
Former DC/LB Coach under Urban Meyer at Utah (03-04)
Bill O’Brien (Houston Texans Head Coach)
Age 46
15-9 Record
Former OC/QB/WR Coach under Bill Belichick for New England Patriots (08-11)
Tier 3 “Everyone Else Said ‘No’”
Doc Holliday (Head Coach at Marshall)
Age 58
49-27 Record
3-0 Bowls
1 Conference Title
2 Division Titles
Former AHC/S/RC Coach at Florida (05-07)
Tom Herman (Head Coach at Houston)
Age 40
10-0 Record
Former OC/QB Coach under Urban Meyer at Ohio State (12-14)
Tier 4 “Wild Cards/Biggest Gambles”
George Edwards (Minnesota Vikings Defensive Coordinator)
Age 48
Former Grad Assistant under Steve Spurrier at Florida (91)
Former DL Coach at Georgia (97)
Former DC Coach at Florida (10)
Kacy Rodgers (New York Jets Defensive Coordinator)
Age 46
Former DL Coach at ULM (98)
Former DL Coach at Arkansas (02)
Adam Gase (Chicago Bears Offensive Coordinator)
Age 37
Former GA/Recruiting Assistant at LSU under Nick Saban (00-02)
Pete Carmichael (New Orleans Saints Offensive Coordinator)
Age 44
Former QB Coach at Louisiana Tech (95-99)
I decided to review a number of both collegiate and professional coaches who either have direct ties to the SEC, Louisiana, or have served under some monumental coach (e.g. Belicheck, Saban, Meyer, etc.).
Coaches are separated by tiers, but their listed order is not indicative of my overall preference.
Also, I have chosen to list only coaches who would consider giving LSU an interview. Coaches such as Meyer and Saban are exempt from this list because you and I both know that neither is likely to depart from their current gig. Other coaches who likely fall under this particular distinction include Jim Harbaugh, Gary Patterson, Art Briles, Jim McElwain, and Bob Stoops.
And finally, career NFL coaches or individuals with essentially no ties to college football, particularly the SEC, are not eligible for consideration. For example, Josh McDaniels has served under both Belichick and Saban, but his only collegiate experience pertains to a single year he served as a graduate assistant under Saban at Michigan State.
Tier 1 “Must Calls”
Dabo Swinney (Head Coach at Clemson)
Age 45
71-26 Record
4-3 Bowls
1 Conference Title
4 Division Titles
Former WR/TE Coach at Alabama (96-00)
Jimbo Fisher (Head Coach at Florida State)
Age 50
66-13 Record
4-1 Bowls
1 National Championship
3 Conference Titles
4 Division Titles
Former QB Coach at Auburn (93-98)
Former OC/QB Coach at LSU (00-06)
Chip Kelly (Philadelphia Eagles Head Coach)
Age 51
46-7 Record
2-2 Bowls
1 National Championship Appearance
Former Head Coach at Oregon
Brian Kelly (Head Coach at Notre Dame)
Age 54
107-43
5-3 Bowls
1 National Championship Appearance
3 Conference Titles
Mark Dantonio (Head Coach at Michigan State)
Age 59
102-49 Record
5-4 Bowls
2 Conference Titles
2 Division Titles
Former DB Coach under Nick Saban at Michigan State (95-00)
David Shaw (Head Coach at Stanford)
Age 43
49-14 Record
2-2 Bowls
2 Conference Titles
Former OC/WR/RB Coach under Jim Harbaugh at Stanford (07-10)
Tier 2 “Questionable Consistency but Good Body of Work”
Mike Gundy (Head Coach at Oklahoma State)
Age 48
93-44 Record
6-3 Bowls
1 Conference Title
Former AHC/OC under Les Miles at Oklahoma State (01-04)
Larry Fedora (Head Coach at North Carolina)
Age 53
64-37 Record
3-3 Bowls
1 Conference Title
1 Division Title
Former OC/RB/WR Coach at Florida (02-04)
Kyle Whittingham (Head Coach at Utah)
Age 55
93-45 Record
8-1 Bowls
1 Conference Title
Former DC/LB Coach under Urban Meyer at Utah (03-04)
Bill O’Brien (Houston Texans Head Coach)
Age 46
15-9 Record
Former OC/QB/WR Coach under Bill Belichick for New England Patriots (08-11)
Tier 3 “Everyone Else Said ‘No’”
Doc Holliday (Head Coach at Marshall)
Age 58
49-27 Record
3-0 Bowls
1 Conference Title
2 Division Titles
Former AHC/S/RC Coach at Florida (05-07)
Tom Herman (Head Coach at Houston)
Age 40
10-0 Record
Former OC/QB Coach under Urban Meyer at Ohio State (12-14)
Tier 4 “Wild Cards/Biggest Gambles”
George Edwards (Minnesota Vikings Defensive Coordinator)
Age 48
Former Grad Assistant under Steve Spurrier at Florida (91)
Former DL Coach at Georgia (97)
Former DC Coach at Florida (10)
Kacy Rodgers (New York Jets Defensive Coordinator)
Age 46
Former DL Coach at ULM (98)
Former DL Coach at Arkansas (02)
Adam Gase (Chicago Bears Offensive Coordinator)
Age 37
Former GA/Recruiting Assistant at LSU under Nick Saban (00-02)
Pete Carmichael (New Orleans Saints Offensive Coordinator)
Age 44
Former QB Coach at Louisiana Tech (95-99)
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Posted on 11/18/15 at 10:28 am to saint amant steve
Where is Les going?
Posted on 11/18/15 at 10:30 am to saint amant steve
David Shaw is already coaching at his dream job. Take him off your list.
Otherwise your tier 1 list is a pretty normal dream list that never comes to fruition during coaching searches.
Ohio State and Alabama are the only two programs in the last many years that landed a truly proven stud head coach in a long time.
Otherwise your tier 1 list is a pretty normal dream list that never comes to fruition during coaching searches.
Ohio State and Alabama are the only two programs in the last many years that landed a truly proven stud head coach in a long time.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 10:36 am to saint amant steve
quote:
Tier 3 “Everyone Else Said ‘No’”
Doc Holliday (Head Coach at Marshall)
Age 58
49-27 Record
3-0 Bowls
1 Conference Title
2 Division Titles
Former AHC/S/RC Coach at Florida (05-07)
Tom Herman (Head Coach at Houston)
Age 40
10-0 Record
Former OC/QB Coach under Urban Meyer at Ohio State (12-14)
This post was edited on 11/18/15 at 10:37 am
Posted on 11/18/15 at 10:38 am to bwallcubfan
Matt Patricia
Posted on 11/18/15 at 10:41 am to saint amant steve
Kyle Whittingham
Posted on 11/18/15 at 10:42 am to saint amant steve
quote:
Mark Dantonio
I've always thought of him as the next Nick Saban. He will absolutely kill it at a big time program.
quote:
Dabo Swinney
I'd take him.
quote:
Jimbo Fisher
Calling him would be a courtesy. I don't think he'd leave and quite honestly, I kinda have an uneasy feeling about him wearing purple & gold again.
quote:
Chip Kelly
Not gonna happen, don't want either.
quote:
Brian Kelly
Would be a disaster at LSU.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 10:44 am to Sonny Koufax
Take Brian Kelly, Dantonio and Shaw off your list, then add Fuente somewhere below Herman and Whittingham but above Holliday.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 10:45 am to saint amant steve
Or just skip the bullshite and call Tm Herman.
Dabo isn't leaving Clemson for LSU. TBH, I'd rather have Herman than Jimbo. Chip Kelly may win the NFCE this year. Mark Dantonio has zero ties to LSU and a (heart?) condition. David Shaw is at his dream job at Stanford.
Gundy really hasn't done much without extremely good OCs. Fedora was a bust at UNC until this year. Bill O'Brien
. Whittingham is a possibility but I'd rather have Herman.
Doc Holliday would be on my list, but after quite a few names (as you posted).
Dabo isn't leaving Clemson for LSU. TBH, I'd rather have Herman than Jimbo. Chip Kelly may win the NFCE this year. Mark Dantonio has zero ties to LSU and a (heart?) condition. David Shaw is at his dream job at Stanford.
Gundy really hasn't done much without extremely good OCs. Fedora was a bust at UNC until this year. Bill O'Brien
. Whittingham is a possibility but I'd rather have Herman. Doc Holliday would be on my list, but after quite a few names (as you posted).
Posted on 11/18/15 at 10:45 am to Rig
quote:
Where is Les going?
Nowhere. LSU fans are spoiled.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 10:52 am to saint amant steve
Tyrone Willingham
Posted on 11/18/15 at 10:52 am to TDsngumbo
quote:
I've always thought of him as the next Nick Saban. He will absolutely kill it at a big time program.
Well he doesn't have much time left...better get on it
Posted on 11/18/15 at 10:55 am to saint amant steve
quote:Tier 3, yet O'brien is Tier 2?
Tom Herman (Head Coach at Houston)
I'm not buying the Dabo hype personally. He's done well, this is true but his defenses are no muy bueno year in year out.
My pick would be Fisher or Herman.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 11:02 am to bwallcubfan
quote:
bwallcubfan
Herman has less than one full season under hist belt.
I'm waiting to see if he is just a one-hit wonder or the real deal.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 11:51 am to nebraskafaninwi
quote:
Ohio State and Alabama are the only two programs in the last many years that landed a truly proven stud head coach in a long time.
Arkansas did it twice with Petrino and Bert.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:00 pm to nebraskafaninwi
quote:
Ohio State and Alabama are the only two programs in the last many years that landed a truly proven stud head coach in a long time.
Umm....Michigan?
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:02 pm to cardboardboxer
Not to mention the LSU job hasn't been open for a long time. It's considered a top job in CFB. These LSU fans who think Miles is the best LSU can do need that flashy thing from Men In Black so they can forget the 90's. 90's are over. LSU is a destination job these days.
This post was edited on 11/18/15 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:38 pm to cas4t
90s are over. Coaches don't leave smaller programs for the bigger one every time anymore. Don't know who we could get and don't know if they're going to be any better. I'd like to see the list of potential candidates from here circa 09/10.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:41 pm to floridatigah
quote:
Coaches don't leave smaller programs for the bigger one every time anymore
Yea I'm gonna need you to elaborate on this. Do you have any examples? Because I can think of quite a few coaches leaving smaller programs.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:44 pm to Sonny Koufax
quote:
Kyle Whittingham
plus 1 What he has done at Utah is pretty special. Jimbo Fisher has far superior talent than anyone in the ACC and is still losing, no thanks.
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