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re: How do you pronounce "Loeffler"?

Posted on 1/23/12 at 3:32 pm to
Posted by BigBoyTiger
Cleveland
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Posted on 1/23/12 at 3:32 pm to
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Brady has been quoted as saying he is one of the biggest reasons that he is the QB he is today.


Link?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/23/12 at 3:36 pm to
Per Chad Balas from Wolverine.com

Spoke with Chad Balas he had some great insight into Loeffler as a recruiter. Also said Tom Brady wrote a handwritten letter to several people saying he was one of a few reasons he is as successful as he is today. Balas wrote a piece on Brady and spoke with Brady's father five years ago, and Brady's father echoed the same sentiments.


Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
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Posted on 1/23/12 at 3:44 pm to
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He also is Brady's trainer in the offseason, and Brady has been quoted as saying he is one of the biggest reasons that he is the QB he is today.


Meh. I bet they are buds.

Everyone knows Tom Martinez is the guy Brady really credits with his development.

eta: FWIW, UF Fans sang the same tune before he got their and you can ask them what they think about his skills as merely a QB coach, much less all the way up to OC.
This post was edited on 1/23/12 at 3:49 pm
Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/23/12 at 3:47 pm to
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Everyone knows Tom Martinez is the guy Brady really credits with his development



No, Tom had Gisele transcribe a letter.
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/23/12 at 3:52 pm to
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I guess he was decent when he was at Georgia though...




Yea if decent is the word you want to use.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41868 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 3:54 pm to
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Meh. I bet they are buds.


Well, since you know their relationship better and what Tom wrote isn't true, than either of the parties involved, I'll bow to your knowledge on all things coaching. Obviously you know enough to qualify is expert on QB coaching/offensive coordinating. That is why you are posting here.

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eta: FWIW, UF Fans sang the same tune before he got their and you can ask them what they think about his skills as merely a QB coach, much less all the way up to OC.



Most i've heard from them is he is a good coach, decent recruiter, and the one time he was able to call plays for them, he did a great job. Most said that Brantley's progression wasn't what was desired, however don't know who is to blame for that one. Nice try though.
This post was edited on 1/23/12 at 3:56 pm
Posted by BigBoyTiger
Cleveland
Member since Aug 2005
9578 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 3:57 pm to
I really do like your middle linebacker though. Freeman is his name I think?

He is a beast. About the only thing I've ever liked associated with Auburn.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 4:06 pm to
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Everyone knows Tom Martinez is the guy Brady really credits with his development.



So it was Tom Martinez that was watching film with Brady and showing him how to break it down while at Michigan?
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 4:28 pm to
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Well, since you know their relationship better and what Tom wrote isn't true, than either of the parties involved, I'll bow to your knowledge on all things coaching. Obviously you know enough to qualify is expert on QB coaching/offensive coordinating.


I think the results speak to themselves. You can google "Tom Martinez and Tom Brady" if you'd like to see what Brady has to say about him.

I'm just thinking of this logically. Loeffler was a GA at Michigan from 97-99, so those were Tom's final two years there. He is a mere 3 years older than Tom.

I don't think it's unfathomable that Tom would come out and speak glowingly about one of his peers, if they are buddies.

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Obviously you know enough to qualify is expert on QB coaching/offensive coordinating. That is why you are posting here.


Loeffler's results speak for themselves. He's given credit for developing Brady (he wasn't his position coach, even), Brian Griese (classic underachiever), Chad Henne (again, classic underachiever), Drew Henson (is there a theme here?), and John Navarre (yippee).

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Most i've heard from them is he is a good coach, decent recruiter, and the one time he was able to call plays for them, he did a great job. Most said that Brantley's progression wasn't what was desired, however don't know who is to blame for that one.



They also raved, pre-season, about how he "totally reformed Tebow's mechanics!" Guess that superb coaching still hasn't taken hold is all.

Brantley was an abject disaster under him as well.


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Nice try though.


The only one trying is you, to convince yourself this is a much better hire than it actually is. I imagine Gene will be looking for a new OC in a 2 or 3 years.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 4:31 pm to
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So it was Tom Martinez that was watching film with Brady and showing him how to break it down while at Michigan?


shite, you are right.

Without Loeffler, there would be no Tom Brady.

Chad Henne, Brian Griese and John Navarre just haven't been given a fair chance yet.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41868 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 4:53 pm to
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Loeffler's results speak for themselves. He's given credit for developing Brady (he wasn't his position coach, even), Brian Griese (classic underachiever), Chad Henne (again, classic underachiever), Drew Henson (is there a theme here?), and John Navarre (yippee).



What i'm seeing is guys tha achieved enough in college to get drafted, yet once left college (Loeffler's coaching) they couldn't achieve the same success, except for Brady. I will gladly take a coach that is able to get his guys to have really good success at the college game. Getting Navarre drafted is nothing short of miraculous.

As for Tebow, he has proven that nobody can fix his throwing motion.

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The only one trying is you, to convince yourself this is a much better hire than it actually is. I imagine Gene will be looking for a new OC in a 2 or 3 years.


All I've said is this is, at the surface, a promising hire that could go either way with its success. You are the one that is saying it is a terrible hire, which just isn't true. When a bunch of coaches come out praising a guy for his work with their QB's and his work ethic, I am going to trust that over your "expert analysis of his coaching ability"
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/23/12 at 5:19 pm to
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I do enjoy that this hire will contribute to more arse kickings like the onewe dealt you this year, yes.


Really? What number were you wearing in that arse kicking Bama served up on 1/9?
Posted by parkjas2001
Gustav Fan Club: Consigliere
Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 6:29 pm to
Youre contradicting yourself. You said AU should not have hired him but youre glad we did. Which is it?
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
25682 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 6:33 pm to
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Youre contradicting yourself. You said AU should not have hired him but youre glad we did. Which is it?



That's not really a contradiction. He's saying you shouldn't have hired him because Auburn could do better but he's glad you hired him because in his opinion he's not that good of a coach/OC/whatever else he may be implying.
Posted by parkjas2001
Gustav Fan Club: Consigliere
Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 6:42 pm to
So he wanted us to hire someone that would improve AU but also wants AU to suck?

Sorry for the confusion...tough to slow my brain down to flamers.
This post was edited on 1/23/12 at 6:43 pm
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 7:06 pm to
Ok, well enjoy it!
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 7:06 pm to
Do you know what a contradiction is?
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
9455 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 7:12 pm to
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One year does not make up for basically 8 years of mediocrity before that (sans 2004).







Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
109177 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 7:45 pm to
Flaming get you some.
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
25682 posts
Posted on 1/23/12 at 7:57 pm to
If you don't understand my explanation then I don't know what I could say to help you
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