re: Here's what I don't get about the O crowd..

quote:

---

In Fedora's defense, he got to UNC as the NCAA put them on probation and took away some scholarships.

---

That is a valid point

quote:

---

his handling of the Jameis Winston situation while Winston was the FSU quarterback.

---

Of all the ridiculous nitpicking of Jimbo's record by some on this board, this is the one serious critique I would level at him.

I'm not even sure what the best way to handle that situation was, but Jimbo sometimes looked like a deer in headlights answering questions about Jameis.

I think Jimbo is the best candidate, but I'd be interested to see the opinions of the FSU fans here about how he handled off the field stuff.

Sammy headed to bed for some sleep, have jury duty in the am. Have a question if you know the answer. Coach Herman is an offensive guy, how have his defenses been at Houston? Is his offense somewhat like Frreze at ole miss which causes his defense to be on the field too much time? Will pick up your answe in the am

IN 2015 Houston was 36 in TOP, at 31.21 minutes per game. 1 spot ahead of LSU

He was 16th in Plays per game though. So the fear of the quick 3 and out that doesn't rest the defense is a factor to consider.

whats interesting is when I looked at 2014 OSU vs 2015 Houston

Right around the sam amount of TOP, 5 play per game difference. OSU averages almsot 6 plays less a game. IDK if he wanted to go at a faster Tempo and CUm was holding him back, or if he is going faster Tempo to compensate for lesser talent like a lot of schools do.

As to Defense

2015 YPG 54 PPG 19
2016 YPG 9 PPG 25

Another interesting tibit, lead the nation in turnover margin per game last year at +1.6.
I think if you look at a big difference in this year is that they average almost a whole turnover more per game.

quote:

---

Many of the "legitimate" candidates have not lived up to this very minimal standard-- especially this year.

---

Yep. I just scratched Jim Harbaugh off my list. How do you lose to Iowa? Do not want.

And Urban Meyer, he's off as well. Losing to Penn State? Joe Pa ain't even alive anymore, how does that happen? Would the LSU players even like Urban as much as they like Coach O?

My main issue with Fedora is his unwillingness to change his O. He wants to go fast and defense be dammed. I don't think any body wants to watch an LSU D give up 30 and 40 points per game.

The bama loss has soured me on O a bit. I was willing to give him a chance I still am but it has conditions. 1. Herman, Jimbo, Kely say no thanks and file restraining orders on us. 2. O brings in Lane or someone big.

I think if O does bring in a real oc and let them work then it will be alright. We know the recruiting will be locked down, we know we have current talent. I also want to see O improve. I think he has done a great job on changes in practice and what not with the program that were badly needed.

I don't even think the bama strategy other than not using guice enough was all that terrible when you look at the cards we were dealt. Its hard to do shite when our oline looks like they need a safe space, our qb has a noodle for an arm. JJ sucked but he could at least hit a deep ball which can hurt bama. Etlig is a good qb vs teams we can run on, but bama is a whole different animal. I think the plan was let the D hold them, try to win field position and hope to score on big plays. We didn't do that and we missed points early thanks to BDP.

Anyways, I think a rational person can admit that O resume is behind others. He does have certain advantages like his ability to recruit, he has good relationships with coaches that also know how to recruit. He does have a bad past as the head man, but its encouraging that he can realize the issue.

I have said it all along though its tier 1. then tier 2 becomes a gamble, and id probably rather gamble on O then an unknown. I think fleck is interesting but who does he know in the coaching circles that he can bring to LSU.

I really think Jimbo has this now though, O had a weird look during and after the arky game.

quote:

---

Yep. I just scratched Jim Harbaugh off my list. How do you lose to Iowa? Do not want. And Urban Meyer, he's off as well. Losing to Penn State? Joe Pa ain't even alive anymore, how does that happen? Would the LSU players even like Urban as much as they like Coach O?

---

Don't be ridiculous. You know better than that. It's not an all or nothing criteria. But a coaching candidate should not be penalized for winning the games he is favored to win. And if a coach loses to several teams he is supposed to beat, shouldn't that be a factor in a hiring decision? If LSU lost to arky and ole miss, O would not even warrant an interview. Right? Then let's treat all candidates by some objective criteria-- and for the record, I'm not sold on any coach just yet.

quote:

---

Here's what I don't get about the Herman crowd...

He beat Oklahoma and an uninspired FSU.

He managed to get beat by Navy and SMU in the same season.

---

He has two big wins and three humiliating losses. He's not done with the losses for this year either. He will be 8-4 at years end.

Notice how the Herman Homers always post his entire HC record? They know that 21-5 for his whole HC career sounds better than 8-4 for this year. Why is he getting worse as he has less of the previous staff's players?

show me the two big wins O has on his resume. Notice how the pro O crowd cannot do that?