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re: Herbstreit: "Who would want the job at Texas"

Posted on 10/8/16 at 8:56 am to
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 10/8/16 at 8:56 am to
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Almost every coach out there including Saban would tell him its one of the top ten coaching spots in the country.

Saban just rejected a $100 million contract to coach at UT.


Is Alabama another top ten coaching destination? With statues. And lake houses

Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 8:57 am to
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Saban also said LSU shouldn't have fired miles.


I wonder why he said this? Hmmmm..... let me think on that for a minute...
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 10/8/16 at 8:59 am to
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Im pretty sure UT would give their top coaching candidate enough time to rebuild it.


Charlie Strong was their top candidate. Have they given him enough time?
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84424 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:00 am to
I see his point, in a way. Mack didn't recruit well in his final years and it's obvious the players were running the program. Now, they want to fire Strong after 2.5 seasons? Lol. He's recruiting well and he's trying to turn a program around. If I'm a coach I think they are impatient and don't understand how to build a contender.
Posted by HurricaneTiger
Coral Gables, FL
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:02 am to
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He's a idiot. Almost every coach out there including Saban would tell him its one of the top ten coaching spots in the country.


Then, why didn't Saban accept it when he could? This job is highly polarizing, and it doesn't take a genius to see it. If you don't succeed day 1, you're on the hot seat. Boosters will try to take control of the team themselves because they think they know better.

Until they can get a firm AD, this job is a death trap. Like Charlie, he might not even have the opportunity to succeed.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49660 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:03 am to
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ram. Now, they want to fire Strong after 2.5 seasons? Lol. He's recruiting well and he's trying to turn a program around. If I'm a coach I think they are impatient and don't understand how to build a contender.


This can very well happen here at LSU and this fan base will be melted.
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:05 am to
Glad to see they have moved on from bashing LSU. Giving Strong the Miles treatment now. ESPN sure does have a bleeding heart for coaches who are poor at their job.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76321 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:05 am to
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Then, why didn't Saban accept it when he could?


So let me see your logic if I can. If another coach from a top ten program (who's won how many titles at bama?) refuses a job from another program that means that program is automatically NOT a top ten program?

Sure. OK.

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Until they can get a firm AD,


Agree here.
This post was edited on 10/8/16 at 9:07 am
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:07 am to
You get paid millions of dollars to win. You don't win, you don't get to keep your job. It's not that difficult to understand. It's not cruel or mean. Give me a freaking break on the sob story for coaches.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
20479 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:10 am to
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He also called Austin a cesspool.


Then he's a fricking idiot.

There's plenty to sell the LSU job over Texas without stupidly badmouthing one of the greatest, cleanest, and most cultured cities in the United States.
Posted by HurricaneTiger
Coral Gables, FL
Member since Jan 2014
3202 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:14 am to
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So let me see your logic if I can. If another coach from a top ten program (who's won how many titles at bama?) refuses a job from another program that means that program is automatically NOT a top ten program?


My argument is more, how could he turn down so much money supposedly to continue coaching at a school that supposedly is on the same level. Especially since he could have become the first coach to win national championships at 3 different schools, which no coach has ever done, and live in Austin, which is also supposedly better than Tuscaloosa.

Of course, this is assuming his pay check would have been as humongous as people are saying.
This post was edited on 10/8/16 at 9:15 am
Posted by kbro
North Carolina, via NOLA
Member since Jan 2007
5332 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:16 am to
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Austin is FAR from a cesspool! It is one of the youngest upwardly mobile areas in the country albeit a liberal hub for millennials.


Herbstreit wasn't referring to Austin, the city, as a cesspool.

He was referring to Austin as a CFB situation for a coach being a cesspool given UT's boosters and university leadership.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26763 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:17 am to
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They would be crazy to fire Charlie strong this year...he must have got left a real mac brown mess



Mack Brown still had 8-9 win seasons in his last three years and still went 2-1 in bowl games after his only losing season following the NC appearance. It wasn't like he was Curley Hallman. If Charlie Strong can't have one winning season in three years over there, then I can certainly see why they would fire him. Their problem is that the players absolutely love the guy. But when your team gives up 50 points to Cal and 49 to Ok. St. in consecutive weeks, it doesn't matter how much the players love you. You have to do better than that.
Posted by TickledTiger
Down & Out
Member since Dec 2007
2837 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:17 am to
Posted by dandan
Member since Nov 2007
5079 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:17 am to
I want Herman at LSU just as much as most do but the reality is that if Texas goes after him as well we have a small shot at him.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26763 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:34 am to
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I want Herman at LSU just as much as most do but the reality is that if Texas goes after him as well we have a small shot at him.

It just depends on how much he is really connected to Texas and how much he wants to remain in Texas. LSU had winning seasons in the 1st year following Hallman and DiNardo. Strong might go 3 years without accomplishing that in an easier conference than the SEC and he was one of their top choices. The SEC is a conference that competitive coaches get excited about going to because of the perception that it's the best. And Tiger Stadium still has the perception of being one of the best places to play college football (along with the tailgating). And of course, at LSU, there is no competition in-state for all of Louisiana's great talent.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:37 am to
Miles would take it.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10885 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:44 am to
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So now we care about what Herbstreit thinks?


not so much that i care what he says.
more that he has a voice that is heard by millions, and a lot of people give his opinion some weight.

whether or not any potential coaching candidates value his opinion on this one remains to be seen, but bet your arse they'll hear it.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:46 am to
Does he know the inner workings of the job at UT? Any 'big time' school will pose a challenge, but did he say why he thought this?
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80675 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:47 am to
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Herbstreit wasn't referring to Austin, the city, as a cesspool.

He was referring to Austin as a CFB situation for a coach being a cesspool given UT's boosters and university leadership.




Correct but these idiots will just take the headline and run with their usual bashing.
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