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re: Hello, Tiger Fans. Allow me to shed some light.

Posted on 1/9/18 at 12:39 am to
Posted by OBTiger
OrangeBeach
Member since Jan 2018
6 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 12:39 am to
Drink the crown and binge watch Netflix all next fall.
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
14834 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 12:43 am to
So you expect me to believe Gilbert and briles, who make a third of what Lsu would offer, would turn us down? Not buying it at all.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83184 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 12:48 am to
I think the LSU leaders are too pussy to hire Briles, is the problem
Posted by RightHook
Member since Dec 2013
5560 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 12:49 am to
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So you're saying Aranda actually does have head coach aspirations? An opinion held by a lot of Orgeron loyalists on this board is that he's not interested in being a HC. Aranda could walk in and demand the job today. It's probably what is needed. If he wants to lead the program, he needs to take control and responsibility for what's best for the program. With Alleva and above not willing to do it, he's the only one.


i'll be the first to volunteer my services for aranda's inevitable coup.
This post was edited on 1/9/18 at 12:50 am
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83184 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 12:51 am to
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felt like Miles wanted to groom Aranda when he brought him in. Miles was close to both milestones and retirement age, I think he believed he could ride off into the sunset with a ton of LSU records and leave the program in good hands. And I think he believed that his tenure and overall record had earned him that right. It's really insane that there's been so much effort put into discrediting him, after all that he accomplished here.

Yeah it’s not cool how things ended with Les. Yes, Les had proved unable to field a decent offense. But the LSU leadership just fricked up so bad. Instead of ending it nearly when he was carried off the field after the 2015 A&M win, it got messy and ugly.

Really, if only Les would’ve modernized the offense, LSU would be a contender.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11194 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 12:56 am to
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Was he not determined for the last 25 years of his career?

Was his determination the reason he hasn't been hired as an OC since Clinton was in office?

Don't confuse determination with aspiration.
Posted by Gemini17
Member since Feb 2014
71 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 12:58 am to
This place is heavy on pessimism and rightfully so but I don't think Esminger is getting a fair shake. I honestly believe we won't be worse off next year offensively.

I actually liked SE play calling more than Canada's.

If you look at the SE passing statistics it was more diversified,much more rec to multiple WRs and TEs.

SE offense broke muliple records with Danny Etling at QB, DANNY ETLING!!

Aside from the two loses against really good defenses in Bama and Florida(which we should have won) we were pretty dominate and composed.
I think SE did a hell of a job considering being thrown into the position during the season.

Now that we pretty much know he will be OC and I've been thinking about it i'm kinda cautiously optimistic on what he can do with a more accurate passer such as a Myles Brennan and a whole offseason to prepare.


I wanted Freeze the bama killer but I don't think Esminger as OC is as bad as everyone believes.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 12:59 am to
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So you expect me to believe Gilbert and briles, who make a third of what Lsu would offer, would turn us down? Not buying it at all.


Briles was considered too toxic to hire by the administration and it was said by many UT and USF people that Gilbert will have to bring his O line coach with him. They are a package deal and not allowing him to come with Gilbert would be a deal breaker. So yeah it's actually incredibly likely he turned us down if O or whoever wouldn't allow him to bring his O line coach with him.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68612 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:00 am to
It wasn’t his offense. He didn’t develop that. He just adapted Cam’s offense.

We’ve never really seen an Ensminger offense.
Posted by Gemini17
Member since Feb 2014
71 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:03 am to
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It wasn’t his offense. He didn’t develop that. He just adapted Cam’s offense.


Well he ran Cam's offense better than Cam
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29856 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:03 am to
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It wasn’t his offense. He didn’t develop that. He just adapted Cam’s offense.

We’ve never really seen an Ensminger offense

Exactly. No one has a clue what SEs offense is, unless we have VHS tapes of the 90s
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162130 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:06 am to
My dead grandmother could have called better plays than Cam did. Doesn’t mean she should be our OC

Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29856 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:06 am to
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Well he ran Cam's offense better than Cam


Cam didn't get to play against those horrible defenses that steve played against. That offense did nothing against any defense with a pulse.

Plus, you have no idea if tgats the offense that he'll run. Rumor is it's a completely different offense (west coast) than Steve has ever been apart of. That's a scary thing
Posted by OBTiger
OrangeBeach
Member since Jan 2018
6 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:06 am to
1984–1986 McNeese State (OC/QB)
1988–1990 Louisiana Tech (OC/QB)
1991–1993 Georgia (QB/PGC)
1994–1996 Texas A&M (OC/QB)
1997–1998 Clemson (OC/QB) FIRED
2000–2002 Central HS (LA) (HC/AD)
2002 West Monroe HS (LA) (WR)
2003 Auburn (QB)
2004–2008 Auburn (TE)
2008 Auburn (OC) FIRED

I’ve seen enough of SE career as OC. Not pretty
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86266 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:08 am to
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Jimbo because there wasnt a chance in hell that year.



I've said this from the get. frick Joe Alleva. He sabotaged this program. I knew Jimbo was unrealistic. You don't try to fire Miles without a concrete plan.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68612 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:10 am to
Apparently Cam’s offenses were incredibly difficult to scheme against but the play calling was atrocious.

One of my best buds played against LSU and was saying his d Coordinator was having a melt down pregame because of all the different looks our offense could give. All over the whiteboard in the lockeroom still scheming pregame and genuinely melting. But Cam would piss away games with play calling. He said he’d never seen worse play calling and Fournette and company should have murdered them.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
32513 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:12 am to
We also had zero qb play in those years outside of mettenberger
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29856 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:14 am to
I still think that was Les driving that play calling.

Cam gets a bad rap, but the dude was a good OC at the top of the football pyramid for a long damn time.
Posted by Cajunese
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
7163 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:14 am to
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I actually liked SE play calling more than Canada's.

If you look at the SE passing statistics it was more diversified,much more rec to multiple WRs and TE


Ensminger had Fournette, Guice, Dupre, and Dural to work with in his system. Take a look at what Canada had to work with this past season. Outside of Guice, Williams, and Chark; who else really stood out? Next season will be worse. The offense will be totally depleted of talent outside of a few young guys.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68612 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:18 am to
Possibly. But the lack of QB development was the bigger issue.

I just found the story funny. He said he had never seen his D Coordinator melting down so hard.
This post was edited on 1/9/18 at 1:21 am
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