- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
0
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:04 am to Raz4back
Ark isn’t in the same stratosphere of a program as Auburn. This isn’t really discussion. If Malzahn leaves its bc he wants more security for doing less.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:07 am to Gump4heisman
Worked out great for Jimbo.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:42 am to Gump4heisman
quote:
Ark isn’t in the same stratosphere of a program as Auburn. This isn’t really discussion. If Malzahn leaves its bc he wants more security for doing less.
THIS.
And if this is his thought process...being able to do less and lower expectations....then he needs to hope on his bus and hit the road to Arkansas.
As an Auburn fan I want a coach who can handle the pressure and has a championship mentality, not the opposite.
Gus is a 8-5ish coach at Auburn. Not sure why Arky thinks he will do so much better with a much lower talent base.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:45 am to Gump4heisman
quote:
Ark isn’t in the same stratosphere of a program as Auburn. This isn’t really discussion. If Malzahn leaves its bc he wants more security for doing less.
I would disagree. Both programs have over 700 wins all time. Auburn leads the all time series by just a few games. Arkansas has 13 conference titles and 3 division titles. Auburn has 12 conference titles and 6 division titles. Auburn has 3 National Titles and Arkansas has 1.
The biggest kicker to me, is Arkansas plays second fiddle to no other program in their state, while Auburn will always play second fiddle to Alabama. Their program is based on success in just one game. I would imagine a coach could win 10 games a season, but if they lose every year to Alabama they would be fired. That isn't an issue at Arkansas.
Is Auburn a better program? Yes. To say that Auburns program is in a different stratosphere than Arkansas, is incorrect.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:49 am to AUWDE
quote:
Gus is a 8-5ish coach at Auburn.
He has won the SEC once and won the West two times while he has been at Auburn. He has won 12 games in a season and won 10 games in another season. Yet you're going to say he is an 8-5 coach when in fact, he has proven you wrong on two out of five seasons?
Ignorant.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:52 am to Hawgeye
quote:
you're going to say he is an 8-5 coach when in fact, he has proven you wrong on two out of five seasons?
What was his record on the other three out of five seasons?
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:56 am to Hawgeye
I think the vast majority of Auburn fans are just fine with Gus, he isn't getting ran off. He may chose to go to Arkansas and that would be unfortunate for Auburn this year. However, I also think most of us will just roll with it if he goes. I would prefer to have a new AD hire the next coach, but again, I think we can draw a good coach. Auburn should return a pretty god team next season.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:57 am to bamasgot13
quote:
What was his record on the other three out of five seasons?
The two seasons of 10+ wins proves his statement to be false.
The average of his seasons is a 9-4 while he has been at Auburn
The average record for Auburn over their entire history is 6.128-3.38
Gus while at Auburn, has bested their historical average by almost 3 games a season, on average.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 9:02 am to Hawgeye
quote:
He has won the SEC once and won the West two times while he has been at Auburn. He has won 12 games in a season and won 10 games in another season. Yet you're going to say he is an 8-5 coach when in fact, he has proven you wrong on two out of five seasons?
Ignorant.
He's never won in post season outside of beating freaking Memphis.
He's crapped the bed against our rivals...specifically a UGA team that has been down in the majority of his tenure.
He can't beat TAMU in Jordan Hare. He's shite the bed against an overmatched LSU team that we had by the throat. He let JSU....FREAKING JSU....take us to the wire.
When Gus is good, he's very, very good....but when he is bad, he's terrible. There is no in between.
I'm not saying I want him gone, but I sure don't want Auburn overpaying for him. IMO he needs to show Auburn he is worth at least what he is making now which ain't too shabby.
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 9:03 am
Posted on 12/3/17 at 9:16 am to Hawgeye
quote:
Both programs have over 700 wins all time.
I think comparing teams in the same conference carries more water than compared teams from different conferences. If you are saying the old SWC was as competitive as the SEC during the same time period, I believe the only fans that will agree with you are Hog fans.
quote:
The biggest kicker to me, is Arkansas plays second fiddle to no other program in their state
Neither does LSU but I don't consider that a bragging right for a small populated state such as the two.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 9:22 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:
I think comparing teams in the same conference carries more water than compared teams from different conferences. If you are saying the old SWC was as competitive as the SEC during the same time period, I believe the only fans that will agree with you are Hog fans.
What you fail to understand is the SEC has not always been what it is now. For over half of the SEC's existence prior to expansion in 1992, the league didn't even play a round robin conference schedule. Some seasons teams would only play 4-5 conference games. So technically, that argument doesn't hold much water when all the teams didn't even face each other every year.
For example...LSU's 1958 schedule, a year the Tigers won their first national championship...
LSU played 5 SEC games: Alabama, Kentucky, Florida, Ole Miss, & Miss State. (none of those games were true road games. 3/5 were in Baton Rouge).
That is the biggest issue I have with the SEC when looking at it from a historical stand point. Each season Arkansas would play Texas, aTm, Texas Tech, etc. The SWC played a true round robin conference schedule.
quote:
Neither does LSU but I don't consider that a bragging right for a small populated state such as the two.
The point is, it alleviates extra pressure at an LSU or an Arkansas. A coach doesn't have to constantly open the paper and read the headlines of another major program in the state. Coach O doesn't have to constantly worry about his seat being hot by losing 1 game in a season to an in state rival that is one of the premier football programs of all time.
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 9:33 am
Posted on 12/3/17 at 9:28 am to Hawgeye
Why is it so hard for people to accept that maybe he and his wife just want to go back home?
Posted on 12/3/17 at 9:37 am to Skyler97
quote:
They can have him. He's a 8-5 coach who can luck into 10 wins every couple years.
Who do you think is going to come in an do better?
Don't say Gruden.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 9:41 am to Hawgeye
quote:
Some seasons teams would only play 4-5 conference games.
I hate to bust your bubble but I googled the Tigers and Hogs schedules for a random year, 1940. Lsu had six conference games. How many did UA have - six. Both teams played 10 games apiece.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 9:41 am to AUWDE
Auburn fans need a good humbling.
Gotten a little big headed in recent years.
Gotten a little big headed in recent years.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:02 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:
I hate to bust your bubble but I googled the Tigers and Hogs schedules for a random year, 1940. Lsu had six conference games. How many did UA have - six. Both teams played 10 games apiece.
In 1940, the SWC was Arkansas, Texas, aTm, Rice, SMU, TCU, & Baylor. Not sure whose bubble you think you burst, but Arkansas played a complete round robin conference schedule that season.
In 1940 LSU played Ole Miss, Vandy, Tennessee, Miss State, Auburn, and Tulane. They did not play Alabama, Georgia, Georgia Tech or Florida. Again, not a true round robin.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:06 am to Gump4heisman
Arkansas is very comparable to Auburn in many ways. They have similar resources and are both willing to spend to win. Arkansas has more big donors, Auburn has a larger overall fanbase and group of donors. Neither is a traditional elite and really aren't likely to ever be but both are capable of winning the SEC if they put the right pieces together.
Arkansas' past record in the SWC is also absolutely comparable to the SEC since you are talking about pre 1990. The old SWC produced a lot of NC's and typically had 4 or 5 Top 25 teams which is about where the SEC was.
The thing that has hurt Arkie is the modern face of CFB works against small population states that don't have a significant recruiting base in their home state. For Arkie specifically it has not been able to rebuild its pipeline into Texas whereas in the past that was the basis of their best teams. It may happen at some point though as Arkie has been growing in buzz in Texas again, our local HS in Austin has 23 kids going to Arkie which is pretty amazing.
Arkansas' past record in the SWC is also absolutely comparable to the SEC since you are talking about pre 1990. The old SWC produced a lot of NC's and typically had 4 or 5 Top 25 teams which is about where the SEC was.
The thing that has hurt Arkie is the modern face of CFB works against small population states that don't have a significant recruiting base in their home state. For Arkie specifically it has not been able to rebuild its pipeline into Texas whereas in the past that was the basis of their best teams. It may happen at some point though as Arkie has been growing in buzz in Texas again, our local HS in Austin has 23 kids going to Arkie which is pretty amazing.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:11 am to supatigah
quote:you are never at home until you go back home...home is where your heart is....i understand because i came home myself
Why is it so hard for people to accept that maybe he and his wife just want to go back home?
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:18 am to doverstutts
quote:
you are never at home until you go back home...home is where your heart is....i understand because i came home myself
Thanks Hallmark
Page 3 of 4
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News