re: Fired Coaches should not get a free ride..........

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I may have missed part of the argument, but why should a player have to pay back a scholoarship for years he was actually at the university?

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They can't tell you. Fortunately, this lame idea will never be implemented.

isnt getting some of these kids, some of yall call them "street thugs" some type of education and forcing them to get there high school diploma and some college better then nothing???????

also if you look at it many players who dont make it in the pros end up going back to school or end up with a decent job where they are able to support themselves and their families. Isnt that the point of college to begin with? Make them contributing members of society.


making them pay back a scholarship is retarted. they fall under the same rules as somebody that gets an academic scholarship. if they fail out they can lose their scholarship, they dont have to repay it. What if a academic scholarship recipient transfers schools after 2 years, should they have to repay the money to lsu?


also the coaches things is the most retarded thing ever. yea im sure we really want smoke here working for us. its called a severance package. its in the contract and its what it takes to get these big time coaches.

With both players and coaches there is a great deal of economic risk in committing to a program.

The coaches generally do not get a free ride. Until recently coaching was much less lucrative and less stable than now. Except for the elite, not much has changed. They take many professional risks with many costs when they go to a program, especially the assistants. Only head coaches had contracts. Now some assistants are getting contracts at major programs--Nebraska and Michigan for example. Those assistants who stay at Nebraska will earn their pay by recruiting according to Osborne. Those not retained will be paid through January 2009. If they take other employment the contract payout will be reduced accordingly. That is fairly common in most employment contracts. Few coaches will sit out long. Competition for coaching positions at colleges is more fierce than liberal arts teaching positions at those same schools. A fired coach may not get a job right away and will almost certainly have to move to take a new job. He may be coming from a team that did not do well or is under the cloud of investigation.

I think schools and their financial backers should look at these contracts and salaries and make sure that they are in the best interests of the institution. Look at WVU suing Rodriguez for his move to Michigan and the irrationally long deal given Weis at Notre Dame. I think there should be less guaranteed money and more incentive pay based on wins-losses, graduation rates, compliance with rules, and other performance measures that affect the football program. The coaches seem to have good agents taking advantage of the "irrational exuberance" in the coaching market. At some point the bubble will burst. Until that happens the institutions should take a more business like approach. One can compare this to the market for executive talent in business or star power in movies. The results often do not justify the costs or meet expectations.

Regarding scholarships, another poster pointed out correctly that there is no guarantee. Scholarships now are one-year and renewable. Between NCAA limits and IRS rules on taxable income, there is a real squeeze on players to gain and maintain athletic scholarships. The institution gets a lot from the player with no commitment to the player for longevity. Until Vietnam, it was quite normal for people to drop out of college to take a good job. Now it is for athletes and computer geniuses. I favor education and graduation, but it is a cost-benefit analysis. Many players have returned to finish school--Shaq for example, and they will do so for a variety of reasons.

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When a University fires a Coach and then pays him for a number of years, he should be required to stay at that University and do some other job. They should be required to EARN the money and not just get a free salary. It would not have to be attached to the sport, but they could teach or something to earn this money.

Nolan Richardson got $40,000 a month for several years after leaving Arkansas. Why? He and other coaches should be required to stay and work for that money. Why should Ole Miss pay Coach O $200,000 a year and him not do nothing?

Players that leave early to the NFL or NBA and not stay and graduate should be required to pay back their scholarship.

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It's in the contract that is negotiated by both parties. Every other element of the contract (compensation, term, etc.) is made with knowledge of this fact.

I'm sure coaches would be willing to allow schools to fire with no compensation as long as they are compensated accordingly for losing the guaranteed money.

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Right.... because once they have been fired, they have soooooo much motivation to do a good job for that school

It does not matter whether they do a good job or not, they could EARN their future salary by doing something....even be a nightwatchman.........

[quote]I nominate your post for stupid post of the year.

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Thanx.......



:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

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Fired Coaches should not get a free ride..........
I hope you're not in the running to be our next AD





and you think they should get a free ride.....dumb....

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The are not getting a free ride Bobby. The are being compensated for having thier contract broken. Contract law! You ever had a legal contract with someone, and had the thing broken? Bet you wanted to be compensated...like anyone would.

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Players that leave early to the NFL or NBA and not stay and graduate should be required to pay back their scholarship.



That's so dumb I won't even comment on it, lol.

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but you did....lamb and dumb.....

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using your logic, shouldn't universities NOT be able to fire coaches at all?

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not be able to fire.......does that mean they can't or can.......NOT!!!!!!!!!