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Derek Dooley: Would you take him as Co-OC and WR coach?
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:00 pm
I know how people feel about him and it’s pretty much all negative. I haven’t seen his name mentioned other than an article about Georgia should consider him as OC.
But the truth is that he didn’t ruin Drew Lock. He has experience as a head coach, WR coach and now OC. He is relatively young and I believe he still has a bright future.
Ties to LSU and I even thought he would be the future LSU Coach way back when he left for La Tech. Part of Saban’s coaching tree.
I admit this won’t be a popular opinion but it’s a hire I wouldn’t hate. But it is blind faith on my part because I haven’t done enough research and haven’t looked into his recruiting.
Would anyone be happy if he was named WR coach and Co-OC with a chance to become full time when Steve retires.
I would like to hear the boards opinion why he would be acceptable or why he would be terrible.
But the truth is that he didn’t ruin Drew Lock. He has experience as a head coach, WR coach and now OC. He is relatively young and I believe he still has a bright future.
Ties to LSU and I even thought he would be the future LSU Coach way back when he left for La Tech. Part of Saban’s coaching tree.
I admit this won’t be a popular opinion but it’s a hire I wouldn’t hate. But it is blind faith on my part because I haven’t done enough research and haven’t looked into his recruiting.
Would anyone be happy if he was named WR coach and Co-OC with a chance to become full time when Steve retires.
I would like to hear the boards opinion why he would be acceptable or why he would be terrible.
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:41 pm to Soup Sammich
I think he would be a better than serviceable OC and a damned good position coach, just not a HC.
Guy gets a lot of hate because of his abortion of a tenure at Tennessee, but being a good position coach or even a coordinator is a different challenge than trying to turn around a dumpster fire at an SEC program.
I would never want him as a HC, but would embrace him as a member of the staff as a position coach and maybe even as an OC.
Guy gets a lot of hate because of his abortion of a tenure at Tennessee, but being a good position coach or even a coordinator is a different challenge than trying to turn around a dumpster fire at an SEC program.
I would never want him as a HC, but would embrace him as a member of the staff as a position coach and maybe even as an OC.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:42 pm to Clutch Cargo
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Guy gets a lot of hate because of his abortion of a tenure at Tennessee
Everyone fails at Tennessee
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:28 pm to Clutch Cargo
I was just talking about a Co-OC role and WR coach. No way would I want him as head coach right now.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:35 pm to Soup Sammich
I would be interested in hearing those opinions that are downvoting. I seriously want to know why he wouldn’t be a good option. I’m guessing recruiting bc I don’t know a lot about his recruiting ability. He wasn’t very good as a head coach but he seems to be on the rise in his coaching career after the Tennessee job.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 11:12 pm to Clutch Cargo
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his abortion of a tenure at Tennessee,
What in the f are you talking about?? He came in after the botched late term abortion trying to save the baby, and got blamed for not reviving it.
OP...give him a couple more yrs at mizzou. If he can keep it solid after Lock he may get a HC position. I do think hes positioning himself for the bama gig consideration list after saban.
Only thing is he does seem to be a lone ranger, so he's not bringing a staff with him. Which is good/bad depending on the situation.
Guy had glimpses at UT that showed his potential. Game in BR back in '11. Just couldnt get the players in place in 2.5yrs. Honestly I hate we fired him to go with jones. And gave him 4-5 yrs.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 12:06 am to TOSOV
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do think hes positioning himself for the bama gig consideration list after saban.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 1:42 am to Soup Sammich
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Would anyone be happy if he was named WR coach and Co-OC with a chance to become full time when Steve retires.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 5:21 am to Soup Sammich
Position coach - absolutely
OC - for the most part
HC - frick no
Some people aren't made to be HCs
OC - for the most part
HC - frick no
Some people aren't made to be HCs
This post was edited on 1/12/19 at 5:21 am
Posted on 1/12/19 at 8:05 am to Soup Sammich
I wouldn't mind Dooley as the WR coach in the least. The guy has proven to be a very good position coach and really not a bad OC. Head Coach wise...... 
Posted on 1/12/19 at 8:21 am to Soup Sammich
Dooley—great job at LSU.
—great job at Louisiana Tech
—failure at Tennessee (like many)
—great job at Mizzou
Plenty of upside in that resume.
—great job at Louisiana Tech
—failure at Tennessee (like many)
—great job at Mizzou
Plenty of upside in that resume.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 8:34 am to SpartyGator
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HC - frick no
Some people aren't made to be HCs
He's a lawyer, and the son of an SEC HC. What about him makes him "not made to be a HC"?
He rubs people wrong, and perhaps comes off wrong/entitled w/o "earning it". Still doesnt mean he isnt capable.
He was what UT needed at the time. No better option. Problem is he was given 2.5 yrs which was barely enough time to clean up the mess kiffin left, so nvr had the opportunity to be a "head coach". Also didnt help he got a new AD after yr1 that wanted to leave his legacy on UT football...butch jones. Hart was said to be "impressed" by jones when he came into Neyland, and lost. Yeah Dooley definitely had a solid shot at being HC...
Posted on 1/12/19 at 8:49 am to TOSOV
In his first year he faced a chip kelley oregon in the 2nd game. Was playing them well until a long rain delay gave kelley an opp to adjust.
Went to BR, and took a player/coach brainfart in a crazy ending for him not to win that game.
Lost the bowl game on what would eventually turn into a new rule to prevent a team from losing that way.
That first year UT played 3 top 10 teams (bama, uf, oregon), and a total of 5 top 20 teams when you add lsu and uscjr.
No coach has walked into what dooley did back then.
I dont know if he'll be a good HC, but dont know he wont be either as he hasnt had a full clean opp to do so. Jones benefited highly from what dooley did, and left him. He failed after given twice the time and pay.
I go back to giving him a few more yrs at mizzou. Hone his skills, and improve his "people skills" rep. He may be a good option.
Went to BR, and took a player/coach brainfart in a crazy ending for him not to win that game.
Lost the bowl game on what would eventually turn into a new rule to prevent a team from losing that way.
That first year UT played 3 top 10 teams (bama, uf, oregon), and a total of 5 top 20 teams when you add lsu and uscjr.
No coach has walked into what dooley did back then.
I dont know if he'll be a good HC, but dont know he wont be either as he hasnt had a full clean opp to do so. Jones benefited highly from what dooley did, and left him. He failed after given twice the time and pay.
I go back to giving him a few more yrs at mizzou. Hone his skills, and improve his "people skills" rep. He may be a good option.
This post was edited on 1/12/19 at 8:53 am
Posted on 1/12/19 at 8:49 am to Soup Sammich
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Derek Dooley: Would you take him as Co-OC and WR coach?
100% yes I'd take Dooley as WR / Co-OC
Dooley is talented, experienced and capable. He can implement modern passing elements into LSU's existing offense or help in the transition to a full-blown spread attack.
Dooley was a terrible head coach, but he's a proven commodity when it comes to running an offense. Dooley would immediately be the best offensive coach LSU has had on staff since Kragthorpe and the best play-caller since Jimbo Fisher.
Realistically, what is the downside? Are there recruiting issues I've never heard of before?
... why did anyone downvote this idea?
Posted on 1/12/19 at 9:02 am to wildtigercat93
What about my comment is so funny?
The thought he would be considered by bama in 3-5-7 yrs OR that I believe he may be trying to hone his skills to be a possible option with a first step like mizzou oc??
The thought he would be considered by bama in 3-5-7 yrs OR that I believe he may be trying to hone his skills to be a possible option with a first step like mizzou oc??
Posted on 1/12/19 at 11:03 am to Green Chili Tiger
Look at our coach now, he had an abortion of a tenure at Ole Miss. He’s turned it around.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 11:05 am to TOSOV
Yeah Bama is gonna hire Mizzous coordinator and Tennessee’s disaster to replace Saban
Their AD isn’t Joe alleva. They’ll do better than that
Their AD isn’t Joe alleva. They’ll do better than that
Posted on 1/14/19 at 11:42 am to Soup Sammich
It wasn't scoring points that got DD fired, it was the inability to stop others from scoring.
Dooley would be an immediate upgrade at OC
Dooley would be an immediate upgrade at OC
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